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IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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IBM as a company barely makes sense at all at this point. They are a very large and a former tech company that mostly coasts along on doing expensive consulting projects around me-too clones of things that other people have invented just so they can still pretend to be a tech company. So you can do things with AI, cloud, and databases with them. But they aren't really leaders in any of that for a long time. And having been exposed to some of that stuff, they aren't very good at it even but they can still get some things done. They still have lots of ancient tech from last century that they support of course. But mostly a new company starting their business today would have very little reason to engage with IBM on anything. There's very little that they do that you can't get cheaper and better elsewhere.

So, IBM using this opportunity to cut down their own org tree a bit more and "replace it with AI" (or simply drop some people) is not unexpected. Because consulting related to doing exactly that is probably what they'll be selling a lot for the next few years. Basically, as world + dog is trying to figure out how to fit AI into their businesses, consulting related to that is going to be booming. And IBM is a consulting company. A lot of their previous efforts are actually powering the backoffice of course. So now that AI is going to replace all of that, that basically means there is going to be a lot of consulting happening as to how that would work. So that's a good business opportunity.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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post #5

> More mundane tasks such as providing employment verification letters or moving employees between departments will likely be fully automated, Krishna said. ...and if some employees quit out of frustration about being managed by AI (being "moved between departments" at the whim of an AI sounds pretty spooky to me at least), even better!

I actually can't wait till I'm managed by AI. At least with an AI there's the high probability it will get better. In fact most likely it'll just be the same gradually improving system which I can converse with for the rest of my career.

Whereas with human managers who knows? Maybe they're good, maybe they're bad, it's a reset every time.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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IBM as a company barely makes sense at all at this point. They are a very large and a former tech company that mostly coasts along on doing expensive consulting projects around me-too clones of things that other people have invented just so they can still pretend to be a tech company. So you can do things with AI, cloud, and databases with them. But they aren't really leaders in any of that for a long time. And havin…

That's a very cynical view. It might be true, but I hardly think they were just waiting for the perfect opportunity. If it made business sense before, they would've already been halting their hiring.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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IBM as a company barely makes sense at all at this point. They are a very large and a former tech company that mostly coasts along on doing expensive consulting projects around me-too clones of things that other people have invented just so they can still pretend to be a tech company. So you can do things with AI, cloud, and databases with them. But they aren't really leaders in any of that for a long time. And havin…

The irony of that is they are probably going to use AI services of competitors to do that despite pioneering the marketing on it for years, thus closing the loop.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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IBM as a company barely makes sense at all at this point. They are a very large and a former tech company that mostly coasts along on doing expensive consulting projects around me-too clones of things that other people have invented just so they can still pretend to be a tech company. So you can do things with AI, cloud, and databases with them. But they aren't really leaders in any of that for a long time. And havin…

The irony of that is they are probably going to use AI services of competitors to do that despite pioneering the marketing on it for years, thus closing the loop.

There's nothing ironic about it. They invested only in the marketing of AI, but not in the serious R&D of it, pretty sure internally they never believed in their own AIs. Plus they got the publicity benefit from Watson, which is important for a consulting company.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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I won't comment on whether this is good or even workable idea, but I will acknowledge this announcement is kinda genius.

Playing into fears about AI replacing large segments of the labour force in the coming years invites calls for regulators to slow down their competition. While at the same time this announcement makes investors happy because IBM is signalling that they're looking to both cut costs and embrace AI.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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This is like how Kodak pivoted to crypto. It's chasing a short term stock market bump at the cost of being absolutely bollocks. Or maybe I'm being unfair and they're smarter and actually this is just a ruse to avoid more lawsuits for age discrimination in their firing practices. Either way, it's more of a sign that IBM is in trouble than AI is really breaking through.

Re: IBM to pause hiring in plan to replace 7,800 jobs with AI

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My experience is that there are lots of BS consulting jobs where I would wonder “what do these 10 people do?” This included lots of offshoring companies, like IBM, that seemed more about filling out whatever the budget sheet given to them than actually making software or even any evidence of software (commits, issues, etc). I expect that there are firms out there right now using ChatGPT to produce the facade of work…

The question is, can IBM place those consultants at customers and get paid for them? Then they're definitely not "BS jobs" for IBM. They might be BS for the person interacting directly with them, yes, but I see no reason for IBM to reduce them.
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