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> For over a thousand years, nobody has been brought up to speak [Latin] naturally at home Uh, except Montaigne.
Fair point though, even today there are parents raising children to be fluent in non standard off track domains.
... except Milton.
In my high school (literally a Latin school) you could hear Latin spoken in the corridor, but I'm pretty sure never by any student, unless put on the spot by a teacher! So yes, it was technically a spoken language, but without gainsaying the author's point.
> For over a thousand years, nobody has been brought up to speak [Latin] naturally at home; ... except Milton. In my high school (literally a Latin school) you could hear Latin spoken in the corridor, but I'm pretty sure never by any student, unless put on the spot by a teacher! So yes, it was technically a spoken language, but without gainsaying the author's point.
Funnily, and ironically, enough, as a native French speaker, I would never translate "ce ne sont pas mes oignons" (litt. "those are not my onions") as "it's not my cup of tea". To me, it actually means "it's none of my business".
“We’re not here to fuck spiders.”
We have a fun way to describe mechanical, word for word translations in Spanish. It's called _from lost to the river_, that's the direct translation of _de perdidos al rio_, which is a saying meaning that once you have embarked onto a silly/dangerous/nonsense business you might just as well go through with it. A sort of reverse sunken cost fallacy. Of course, the fun is in that it makes no sense once translated. I fi…
> For over a thousand years, nobody has been brought up to speak [Latin] naturally at home Uh, except Montaigne.
> For over a thousand years, nobody has been brought up to speak [Latin] naturally at home I know it is a very small number of people, and perhaps not Latin as it was spoken in Rome, but I think an argument could be made that Romansh is a direct descendant of Latin still actively spoken today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romance_languages
Off topic: I'm rebuilding our landing page (targeting CH for the time being) and decided to add Romansh. Long story short, there are 5 standard forms, plus an official made-up version, all of that for 60k speakers. Was interesting to read so much about our 4th official language.
> For over a thousand years, nobody has been brought up to speak [Latin] naturally at home Uh, except Montaigne.
> For over a thousand years, nobody has been brought up to speak [Latin] naturally at home I know it is a very small number of people, and perhaps not Latin as it was spoken in Rome, but I think an argument could be made that Romansh is a direct descendant of Latin still actively spoken today.
This article seems to adequate translation with adaptation, which is the crux of the issue I think.
In one case you might want to convey the exact words expressed regardless of the nuances, social context and "making it sound right". Your primary goal is to convey information, however clumsy it can feel as a result.
On the other case, you'll want the reader/listener to feel like a native person is talking to them, adapting to their reference frame, sacrificing accuracy to properly convey the spirit of the words.
I think it comes down to how much entertainment is expected from the result, if it's for research purpose for instance, accuracy will prime.
If, as I think is the main goal of the author, it's "to prevent that person in front of you from subjecting you to a sad, pitying look", fully adapting is surely the way to go.
We have a fun way to describe mechanical, word for word translations in Spanish. It's called _from lost to the river_, that's the direct translation of _de perdidos al rio_, which is a saying meaning that once you have embarked onto a silly/dangerous/nonsense business you might just as well go through with it. A sort of reverse sunken cost fallacy. Of course, the fun is in that it makes no sense once translated. I fi…
In Turkish, we call it 'chicken translation' or 'tavuk çevirme.' While that normally means rotisserie chicken, a few places badly translated it, and the name stuck for word-for-word.
Funnily, and ironically, enough, as a native French speaker, I would never translate "ce ne sont pas mes oignons" (litt. "those are not my onions") as "it's not my cup of tea". To me, it actually means "it's none of my business".