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Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by hammyhavoc »

echelon wrote: post #19
hammyhavoc wrote: post #9

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Yeah, like get this, when the world is turning to shit because of climate change and we're forced to live underground like rats, we can all collectively hallucinate what the world used to be like. It'll be grand. You'll be hallucinating, I'll be hallucinating, the AI'll be hallucinating too. "His older work was much better," ChatGPT will proclaim. "... what older work?"

> the world is turning to shit By most objective measures, this is false. More people are being lifted out of poverty than ever before. People are also less bored, more creative, and more productive. > because of climate change Hasn't happened yet. Barring a runaway effect, it looks like we'll have fewer species (lamentable) but more arable land. We're still in an ice age and we're nowhere close to Cretaceous climate…

`Warning: sense of humour failure. Please insert more coffee. Error code: 8008`

Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by hammyhavoc »

walderf wrote: post #14
hammyhavoc wrote: post #8

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You can't just leave it at that and not get on a throwaway and whistleblow.

i posted a couple links in a top level comment. i didn't rezlize you replied, otr i would have done it here. can't go on alt, now. it's just a little light reading. unless it's happening in such a way that you know it's happening, you wouldn't believe it. if you're, let's say, able to read what's not there but actually really right there, then.... yeah. also. you don't want it to happen to you. it will happen to ever…

Do you believe this is something you're experiencing?

Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by walderf »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #10
walderf wrote: post #7

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no, you wouldn't. you know where the water is coming from. you know it's water. oh. they don't need the fancy machine to interface. it's remote. they reply. you don't know where it comes from, either. or who. trust me. you don't want to know what it's like.

What are you even talking about? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-023-01304-9 It's fMRI, there's nothing remote about it.

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Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by walderf »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #22
walderf wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i posted a couple links in a top level comment. i didn't rezlize you replied, otr i would have done it here. can't go on alt, now. it's just a little light reading. unless it's happening in such a way that you know it's happening, you wouldn't believe it. if you're, let's say, able to read what's not there but actually really right there, then.... yeah. also. you don't want it to happen to you. it will happen to ever…

Do you believe this is something you're experiencing?

no.

i don't care if you think what i say is crazy because it's actually really f'n crazy.

you are in a very advantageous position right now, so, let's wrap this up. you don't want to know that it's real, so, it's best that you just go on with your life knowing that i am just a crazy insane person on the internet.

i do ask one favor. remember, whenever it's real, just remember that one crazy, down-voted, and mostly ignored insane rambling crazy commenter talking about some seriously crazy to the point of being unbelievably crazy.... crazy.... crazy impossible thing that, well, it ain't gonna be chuck testa, but you'll sure wish it was, and smile, because he was.... 100%...... c

Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by hammyhavoc »

walderf wrote: post #25
hammyhavoc wrote: post #22

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Do you believe this is something you're experiencing?

no. i don't care if you think what i say is crazy because it's actually really f'n crazy. you are in a very advantageous position right now, so, let's wrap this up. you don't want to know that it's real, so, it's best that you just go on with your life knowing that i am just a crazy insane person on the internet. i do ask one favor. remember, whenever it's real, just remember that one crazy, down-voted, and mostly ig…

Bold of you to assume that I don't want to know that it's real. I asked a question that I thought might lead to some first-hand anecdotal evidence, as I'm intrigued after going through your links that you provided.

What's the advantage here to me? What can I do? If what you say is correct and "they" can both read my mind remotely and control my body, organs included, and this is in the public domain with my name attached to it, I would say that it's a battle nobody can win, especially as I don't even know who the hypothetical attacker would be, and where from.

I've heard all kinds of "crazy" things, some of which turned out to be true, because the truth is frequently stranger than fiction, especially as far as technology is concerned.

However, the mix of defensiveness and emotional language is never a good sign though for credibility.

If you've never experienced it first-hand, and you're making a claim that this is possible to do remotely and is being abused, what's your evidence for that? You can write long posts lambasting for me apparently dismissing it, yet you've presented no evidence of your own to validate your own original claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by devsda »

For now the system has to be trained per person. Is the difference in brain activity across individuals significant enough to stop building a universal model?

It is not clear whether this is language dependent or not. If it is, I hope being bilingual or multilingual is a viable defense against this technology.

Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by flangola7 »

walderf wrote: post #24
hammyhavoc wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you even talking about? https://www.nature.com/articles/s41593-023-01304-9 It's fMRI, there's nothing remote about it.

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Did you seriously just link the Wikipedia articles for... microwaves and the EM spectrum?

In one sentence, what is the concrete point you are making?

Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by walderf »

hammyhavoc wrote: post #26
walderf wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no. i don't care if you think what i say is crazy because it's actually really f'n crazy. you are in a very advantageous position right now, so, let's wrap this up. you don't want to know that it's real, so, it's best that you just go on with your life knowing that i am just a crazy insane person on the internet. i do ask one favor. remember, whenever it's real, just remember that one crazy, down-voted, and mostly ig…

Bold of you to assume that I don't want to know that it's real. I asked a question that I thought might lead to some first-hand anecdotal evidence, as I'm intrigued after going through your links that you provided. What's the advantage here to me? What can I do? If what you say is correct and "they" can both read my mind remotely and control my body, organs included, and this is in the public domain with my name atta…

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Re: Brain activity decoder can reveal stories in people’s minds

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Post by walderf »

flangola7 wrote: post #28
walderf wrote: post #24

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Did you seriously just link the Wikipedia articles for... microwaves and the EM spectrum? In one sentence, what is the concrete point you are making?

i did.

it reads as a story if you ignore everything before the first single "/" and read the title, which has a handy link to anyone wanting more info about it, because i am a nice guy, instead of asking such a question.

as far as summing it up, well, you can read what i have posted here to figured it out, if you really want to know more.

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