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Re: Mercury OS

#81
post #25

This looks like the exact opposite of what I would do if I were to redesign operating systems. The job of operating system is just to run application and get out of the way, and most importantly be deterministic and reliable. I don't need my OS to "predict what I might need", I know what I need myself.

It pretty much embodies everything I hate in modern OSes. I know what I want to do and I know how I want to do it, get out of my way. Meanwhile modern OSes can't even handle simple "maybe don't steal fucking focus from window I am currently writing something in just because some other app decided to make another windows."

How does it embody stealing focus when this design goal is specifically about focus?

"Focused. The clutter we take for granted in today’s operating systems can be overwhelming, especially for folks sensitive to stimulation. Mercury is respectful of limited bandwidths and attention spans."

Re: Mercury OS

#82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it non-obvious? The page goes like: 1. Title 2. Screenshot 3. "Mercury is a speculative reimagining ..."

Yeah, that sounds like pretty standard marketing copy. Definitely nothing to say this isn't a thing someone intends on bringing to market.

Standard marketing copy does not have the word “speculative” in it because it’s not… speculation

Re: Mercury OS

#83
post #43

This looks like the exact opposite of what I would do if I were to redesign operating systems. The job of operating system is just to run application and get out of the way, and most importantly be deterministic and reliable. I don't need my OS to "predict what I might need", I know what I need myself.

That's because this OS is a speculative puff piece by a UI designer looking to drum up some business.

I don't know why you people are so touched about somebody's attempt at redesigning an OS.

Here's the thing: You are not the target audience of this OS and you are by no means required to use it.

In my opinion, this is a solid attempt at creating an operating system for non-techies. Way fewer concepts to learn, way easier interaction.

Re: Mercury OS

#84
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would you change compared to Android to improve "let me choose the application I want and run it?"

what could be easier than "tapping on an icon with my index finger"?

Cmd + D > Fuzzy search

... or whatever your OS application search is

Re: Mercury OS

#85
OS design is in an interesting place right now.

I feel like it's impossible to have a device experience that caters to everyone.

The vast majority of users don't consciously register that they are using a computer with an operating system. Most don't know there are differences between tablets, laptops and phones. Most don't understand the concept of a file or a folder - "photos" are in "iCloud" and "documents" in "google docs", etc.

An OS for them, laptop or mobile, is something like iOS or Android (or the demo in this post). The spanner here is compatibility. I'd wager if Android or iOS could run Windows games/apps and fit on a desktop/laptop form factor, this would suffice for almost everyone. The iPad "Pro" is an example demonstrating the potential of this concept.

The non power-user professionals who use their devices for productivity purposes like spreadsheets, document writing, etc would need something that lets them multi task, wiz around and organise/optimise their workflow. Something like Windows 7 or MacOS. Something that doesn't get in their way, maximises the use of their hardware, is reliable and predictable.

The power user, administrator and developer are either agnostic or never happy (I fall into the latter category).

I want the Windows 7 with the classic theme experience on top of a Linux OS that features MacOS workspaces-per-monitor, with iTerm2 and where the start menu search is as good as Spotlight - but with extensions. It needs to be compatible with Windows games and where applications behave reliably, without jank.

My dream operating system is a spartan productivity workhorse born out of a vaporwave fever dream - and no designer in their right mind would ever sign off on it (I'd be willing to forgo the classic theme).

At the end of the day, I feel like we can't cater to everyone with one UI and the OS vendors are trying (and failing) to do just that.

Windows 11 is a dumpster fire and MacOS is increasingly hostile to the experience of power users. They gotta stop fooling around with "one OS for everyone"

What we need are real differences between "Windows 11", "Windows 11 Pro", "Windows 11 Linux Spartan Edition"

Re: Mercury OS

#86
To me, this is more like UX design than OS. Or I have a big misconception on OS and UX.

Anyway this approach is interesting if this could be implemented.

Re: Mercury OS

#87
I try to stay relatively positive and open minded on this site.

But I hate everything this stands for. I want tools! This whole idea feels insulting to its own users, seen by the authors as an infinitely confused people incapable of understanding any complexity at all. They can’t see every option and action for an application! They will get confused! Instead we will build them half-assed applications on-the-fly based on their ill-imagined idea of what their goal is, explained in prose. Plain prose of course being the most accurate way to describe a problem space.

I’m glad this is just a concept and not a product pitch.

Re: Mercury OS

#88

OS design is in an interesting place right now. I feel like it's impossible to have a device experience that caters to everyone. The vast majority of users don't consciously register that they are using a computer with an operating system. Most don't know there are differences between tablets, laptops and phones. Most don't understand the concept of a file or a folder - "photos" are in "iCloud" and "documents" in "go…

That productivity OS for power users does exist. It's free and you can even run Windows games in it now.

Re: Mercury OS

#89

I knew, as soon as this "OS" title didn't lead to a Unix-like general purpose OS, that there would be a lot of shitting on it. Stay in your lanes, designers! Humanity cannot improve on the taskbar/window configuration for any use case, ever.

Maybe designers should research why we are not redesigning things like power sockets, forks, knives, shoelaces every other month.

Re: Mercury OS

#90
post #46
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It pretty much embodies everything I hate in modern OSes. I know what I want to do and I know how I want to do it, get out of my way. Meanwhile modern OSes can't even handle simple "maybe don't steal fucking focus from window I am currently writing something in just because some other app decided to make another windows."

Totally agree. I'm sick and tired of apps "helping me," constantly interrupting with tips, "did you know .." rearranging my windows and so on. I want to get stuff done not start a journey and relationship with new code. And nobody knows better than the user what stuff they wanna do.

I think this is the best argument against "telemetry" in apps. If there is no way to measure people's reactions to such annoying prompts, there would be no way for a product manager to justify it by saying "metric X went up by Y% when we showed this popup".
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