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Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Post by kevingadd »

Zpalmtree wrote: post #155
sofixa wrote: post #79

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Take a look at Switzerland. Universal suffrage only became universally applied when courts forced the last holdout cantons, in the 1990s . They also recently refused decarbonision efforts because those would result in higher taxes. Masses of common people are fundamentally unprepared for voting and compromising on important and complex legislation. That's why (supposedly expert) agencies and lawmakers exist, to handl…

Switzerland seems to be doing pretty well? Why do you think they have to vote for the policies you want for it to be a good idea?

Are you unironically arguing against universal suffrage as a policy?

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Post by capableweb »

Aunche wrote: post #200
capableweb wrote: post #198

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> given that Europe lags behind in technological innovation True in some sense, like cool innovations like Ubers for X and social media. False in some sense that there been innovation coming from Europe as well, small things like the web, GSM, CRISPR, LHC, renewables and other almost irrelevant things. I think technological innovations comes from all continents and I don't think you can surely say that one lags behin…

Obviously, the LHC isn't going to blocked by antitrust. I'm specifically talking about disruptive technology-related businesses. When is the last time Europe has produced a company like Moderna, Tesla, or OpenAI?

Since your argument was "Europe lags behind in technological innovation", which is not related to companies per-se, wouldn't it be more interesting for you to find out what kind of technological advances Europe has been leading?

But since I already shared that with you, here are some companies doing interesting "disruptive" stuff, which seems more interesting to you:

- Vertical farming -> Infarm (Germany), Agricool (France)

- Electric mobility -> Northvolt (Sweden)

- Quantum computing -> IQM (Finland), Pasqal (France)

- Biotechnology and synthetic biology -> Oxford Nanopore Technologies (UK), Synthace (UK)

- Renewable energy -> Vestas (Denmark), Oxford PV (UK)

While writing all of this out, I'm starting to think that maybe you're just trolling, as obviously there is technological innovation coming from all continents and someone can't be so thick to think it all comes from the US, right?

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Post by Aunche »

capableweb wrote: post #202
Aunche wrote: post #200

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Obviously, the LHC isn't going to blocked by antitrust. I'm specifically talking about disruptive technology-related businesses. When is the last time Europe has produced a company like Moderna, Tesla, or OpenAI?

Since your argument was "Europe lags behind in technological innovation", which is not related to companies per-se, wouldn't it be more interesting for you to find out what kind of technological advances Europe has been leading? But since I already shared that with you, here are some companies doing interesting "disruptive" stuff, which seems more interesting to you: - Vertical farming -> Infarm (Germany), Agricool (…

Obviously, a wealthy continent of over 700 million people is going to produce some technological innovation. I'm just saying that they lag behind. I haven't heard of any of these companies you listed.

As you mentioned, Europe has biotech and the US has biotech. So why did Moderna come from the US rather than the Europe? Same for EVs and social media. Rather than use home grown messenger apps like KaoKaoTalk and Line, they use Whatsapp, which isn't even widely used in the US. Could it be that Microsoft is correct that businesses are burdened by regulation? I honestly can't say, but it's definitely worth analyzing rather than dismissing this criticism as "whining". That's the trolling that you should be concerned about rather than comments on the Internet.

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Post by doctor_eval »

gruez wrote: post #53
doctor_eval wrote: post #42

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> I don't mind the complaint about CMA being undemocratic And anyway, who elected Microsoft?

>who elected Microsoft? citizen: I want to paint my house blue mayor: I unilaterally forbid you from doing that, on the grounds that blue houses look unsightly citizen: that's undemocratic! mayor: who elected you to decide painting your house blue?

That’s a super weird analogy. The citizen wanted to do something and was rebutted by the mayor. The mayor was elected.

Microsoft is complaining that the mayor, in their example, was not elected.

Re: Ignore Microsoft’s whines about the Activision takeover. The CMA did its job

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Post by piva00 »

judge2020 wrote: post #72
capableweb wrote: post #24

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Did you actually read the report that the CMA released? They are not basing the block on some "maybe" future, but on current reality. > Microsoft already accounts for an estimated 60-70% of global cloud gaming services and has other important strengths in cloud gaming from owning Xbox, the leading PC operating system (Windows) and a global cloud computing infrastructure (Azure and Xbox Cloud Gaming). Microsoft alread…

> 60-70% of global cloud gaming services Their point is that cloud gaming is likely way less than 1%, maybe even 0.01% of any gaming activity. The cloud gaming experience still isn't 100% there in terms of latency, so it only makes sense to play single player games, and then most people who have an xbox just use their existing hardware rather than pay Microsoft to play it remotely.

Cloud gaming = paying a subscription for access to play games, Blizzard's Battle.net, Microsoft's Game Pass and Xbox Online subscriptions, etc.

It's not streaming gaming.

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Post by logistark »

deelowe wrote: post #103
judge2020 wrote: post #72

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> 60-70% of global cloud gaming services Their point is that cloud gaming is likely way less than 1%, maybe even 0.01% of any gaming activity. The cloud gaming experience still isn't 100% there in terms of latency, so it only makes sense to play single player games, and then most people who have an xbox just use their existing hardware rather than pay Microsoft to play it remotely.

In this case cloud gaming is all of game pass, not just streaming.

In this case is clearly stated if you read the report as xCloud, not Gamepass. Even they metion about the latency, and metion as competetitors Nvidia Geforce Now and Playstation Now

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Post by dkersten »

pwthornton wrote: post #172
sangnoir wrote: post #147

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> The experience is terrible. That is an implementation issue. I was on Stadia (r.i.p.) and the experience was superior to consoles: pure plug and play with no slow software updates getting in the way of gaming.

How was your experience with lag and what kinds of games were you playing the most?

I didnt try stadia, but I did try a PlayStation Now trial some time ago. I only played single player games, but some were first person shooters where you’d expect lag to matter. My experience was also very good and I didn’t have any issues with lag. I kept forgetting that I was streaming.

But I have gigabit internet (and before I got that, had 300 Mb/s) and played with a wired connection, so that’s likely a contributor to my positive experience.

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