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Controversial bill to regulate online streaming becomes law in Canada

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Post by BeefWellington »

capableweb wrote: post #10
kneebonian wrote: post #3

This is my biggest worry that as countries continue to add more and more laws the internet becomes more and more fragmented and soon instead of the internet we have the EUnet, the CAnet, the ChinaNet, the RussiaNet the AmericaNet, etc.

This is already the case, but it's not based by location but by languages. Spanish-speaking internet is vastly different from the English-speaking one, and so is the internet for Chinese, Russian, French, Portuguese speaking population. Every major language have their own corner of the internet. Anyone who is bilingual can tell you the same :)

Mr. Beast was the first YouTuber to really recognize this and pays to have people dub and subtitle his videos into other languages.

His media empire has become absolutely massive.

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Post by kranke155 »

Sytten wrote: post #47

The French speaking part of Canada of which I am a part of generally view this legislation positively since it does mean more money for culture in French. Money that currently goes toward English content. Now if we could actually produce quality shows it would be great (right now its like 90% bad soap/romcom/cop shows), otherwise the younger generations (me included) will just continue to watch US English content. If…

Quotas are great exactly for this reason. In France before quotas in cinemas, the quality of the films was poor.

But when you he cinemas were forced to show French film in. x amount of screenings, desperate not to lose money they started to fund the films themselves and make films that were as profitable as possible.

This led to a positive loop where 1. The cinemas would look for lucrative films to fund 2. Creating a demand on local filmmakers to make films that people wanted to see 3. Which became hits 5. Leading to cinemas looking for more French films to put on

Etc

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Post by rektide »

I both want diverse cultures to flourish & be celebrated but wow, this is not the way.

Bossing around entities on the internet to give special treatment to your niche causes is the new thing, is what everyone all of a sudden is giving themselves laws to do.

It just has such limits, pushing other people around to give yourself favor. How is the internet supposed to keep on, when every nation demands their pound of flesh, their personal asks?

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Post by FpUser »

walterbell wrote: post #2

> The legislation requires streaming services, such as Netflix and Spotify, to pay to support Canadian media content like music and TV shows. Canada deleted their Youtube channel with 3,000+ digitally restored works of Canadian Content, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982

What a shame. I'd love those geniuses who decided to remove content to be sued for fraud or willful negligence at least for wasting taxpayers money this way.

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Post by kranke155 »

vivekd wrote: post #37
mynegation wrote: post #5

As a Canadian, I am of two minds about it. FM radio is required to broadcast Canadian produced or performed music at least for 35% of the time. There are not too many, in absolute numbers, songs that are both Canadian and popular which results in few songs being broadcast to death. At least that was the case when I used to listen to FM radio. On the other hand, that legislation certainly helped Canadian artists.

I think that's going to be the key here, how do you define "Canadian content" in terms of internet broadcast. Does this mean the government will be hand picking which content and producers count as Canadian? If standards are set, will they favor certain content producers with ties to the government. Right now the law is extremely vague and seems like it's tilted towards helping Canada's legacy media rather than small…

Ir would be indefensible for the government to pick people. It didn’t do that before on TV so why would it do that now ?

Quota laws are not that rare outside of the US. They were used in France to rebuild the National cinema.

There is no trend for the government to do what you’ve described, and they do is they create a positive loop between the distributors and content creators so more local content is produced and shown.

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Post by voisin »

rektide wrote: post #73

I both want diverse cultures to flourish & be celebrated but wow, this is not the way. Bossing around entities on the internet to give special treatment to your niche causes is the new thing, is what everyone all of a sudden is giving themselves laws to do. It just has such limits, pushing other people around to give yourself favor. How is the internet supposed to keep on, when every nation demands their pound of fle…

> Bossing around entities on the internet to give special treatment to your niche causes is the new thing, is what everyone all of a sudden is giving themselves laws to do.

In Canada the only unique thing here is the “on the Internet” component of your sentence. Canada has been bullying business of all sorts into all sorts of things under the guise of “culture” for decades. Apparently our culture is so weak that it can’t stand up on its own and needs the entire edifice of government to prop it up.

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Post by osigurdson »

juancampa wrote: post #7
walterbell wrote: post #2

> The legislation requires streaming services, such as Netflix and Spotify, to pay to support Canadian media content like music and TV shows. Canada deleted their Youtube channel with 3,000+ digitally restored works of Canadian Content, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982

A similar law was passed in Venezuela in ~2005. It forced radio stations to play traditional Venezuelan music as a percent of all their airtime. From the only article I could find in english [0]: > The law can make listening to the radio an adventure in dizzying contrasts. One minute a disc jockey is playing American rap, and the next minute it’s flutes and fiddles from the Andean highlands. It pushed some local arti…

Not nice to see that we are following in the footsteps of Venezuela. Beautiful country and great people obviously, but not exactly known for its alignment with free and democratic principles.

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Post by kranke155 »

capableweb wrote: post #8
mynegation wrote: post #5

As a Canadian, I am of two minds about it. FM radio is required to broadcast Canadian produced or performed music at least for 35% of the time. There are not too many, in absolute numbers, songs that are both Canadian and popular which results in few songs being broadcast to death. At least that was the case when I used to listen to FM radio. On the other hand, that legislation certainly helped Canadian artists.

Look forward to seeing the same thing on YouTube, Twitter and other online services from now on in Canada. At least 30% of the videos your feed contain will be from some Canadian "influencers" that the government approved. Regulation will continue being created to force content upon you until you start liking the content.

Did you read the article ? It specifically says user generated content is NOT covered.

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Post by SECProto »

version_five wrote: post #11
frumper wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds more like telling companies that sell to Canadians to put back into the Canadian economy and to support all Canadian customers, not just the easy ones. I'm sure it's nice to have Netflix pay Canadian taxes, but what is better is if Netflix helps create jobs for Canadians by using revenue that Netflix earns by operating in Canada. That seems reasonable to me for every country.

I'm assuming your not canadian. Canadian content is a tax we (canadians) all pay, being forced to wade through a sea of government approved crap to actually watch a good show. It benefits some small elite class of people, it's not for "difficult" Canadian customers.

I'm Canadian, and I like CanCon rules. While this new law has major flaws, I still view it as a net positive.

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Post by walterbell »

FpUser wrote: post #74
walterbell wrote: post #2

> The legislation requires streaming services, such as Netflix and Spotify, to pay to support Canadian media content like music and TV shows. Canada deleted their Youtube channel with 3,000+ digitally restored works of Canadian Content, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35716982

What a shame. I'd love those geniuses who decided to remove content to be sued for fraud or willful negligence at least for wasting taxpayers money this way.

It's bizarre, considering there was zero cost for hosting the thousands of videos that had already been on Youtube for years.
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