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Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by Vrondi »

prophesi wrote: post #76
dahart wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s a straw man. The Krita picture of “Kiki” is not a member of my family, or anyone else’s. Nobody in my family is ambiguously young with melon sized breasts, and even if they were I definitely wouldn’t have a picture of it on my desk.

Your verbiage makes it sound concerning, but if it's the following image[0] then I don't see how anyone could misconstrue it with lolita culture. It looks like something you'd see in a Studio Ghibli film. [0] https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/electrichearts_...

In most western cultures, visible garters are lingerie not appropriate to a professional environment for anyone who isn't a sex worker/stripper/fashion model.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by Rayhem »

hellofriends1 wrote: post #126
acapybara wrote: post #17

As a long-time user and supporter of Krita, I'm thrilled to see it mentioned here. However, I must express my concern about the choice of emphasizing "FREE" in all caps in this headline. While I understand that the cost-free nature of open-source software is certainly appealing, I feel that this particular framing could cheapen the overall value proposition of Krita. Krita has much more to offer than just being free.…

> the choice of emphasizing "FREE" in all caps in this headline. You’re welcome to fork it and try to sell it if you think that’s such a great idea. Anyway are you going to blame the user? I will. It sucks people pay for a $3 coffee or a cigs or chips not software they use for even 10s. Maybe figure out a way to make software physiologically addictive like coffee tobacco and junk food, and you can bypass the two deca…

> You’re welcome to fork it and try to sell it if you think that’s such a great idea.

Emphasis mine. Are you implying the OP shouldn't raise these ideas? Have you ever had a complaint about a user interface in your car? You are, after all, free to build your own and design it how you like. They saw something they thought could be improved, provided a rational explanation of why they think a change should at least be considered, and did so in a manner that's very respectful of both the software and the people who developed it. So this comment feels more than a little...reductive to me. Moreover, I don't read their commentary as suggesting the software shouldn't be free, merely that its price tag shouldn't be the loudest and most prominent selling point. It's a well-known psychological phenomenon that people want things they think are valuable, so putting a $5 sign on the furniture you're trying to give away makes it more likely to go.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by cynthedesign »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #97
kps wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My Photoshop install from a previous life is a major reason I still keep a 15-year-old Mac running. Krita is really nice but it's an artist's tool, not a general image editor. GIMP is a general image editor but… not really nice.

> My Photoshop install from a previous life is a major reason I still keep a 15-year-old Mac running. I've debated setting up an offline "creative corner" machine with a comfy older OS and Photoshop, something like Snow Leopard and Photoshop CS1/CS2, precisely because the core of what makes PS useful for me hasn't changed in ages. For my use case the new features added in versions since simply aren't worth the bloat…

There are so many of us with this mindset, if there were usable tools that played well with muscle memory of oldschool adobe workflows the market for new versions of PS in particular and to a lesser extent Illustrator, would fall drastically.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by everybodyknows »

as1mov wrote: post #41
PrimeMcFly wrote: post #9

I tried switching to it so I had an FOSS alternative to paint.net, but so far it's taking some getting used to. I really wish paint.net was FOSS - it's perfect.

Try Pinta, it's pretty close to Paint.net in terms of functionality. But make sure to install it from the repository specified on the website. The version provided by various distributions is very old and unstable.

Multiple steps may be required:

https://www.pinta-project.com/howto/installing-pinta

Latest is v2.1. Ubuntu 20.04 apt repo is indeed back at v1.6.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by Daunk »

I feel like Krita is the next best thing after Photoshop, however; the interface really doesn't sit right with me at all. It feels very counter intuitive and I struggle finding what I need. I also don't like that "windows" inside the "main window" isn't really a thing unless you use the software(?) renderer, and even then it's sub-par at best. Like, I want to have 4 or 5 images open and see them all at the same time.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by Vrondi »

nojonestownpls wrote: post #47
raincole wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How... how is that semi-NSFW...?

"It's not from my culture and I find unfamiliar things scary, so I'm gonna call it NSFW"

"It appropriates something from my culture that is sexualized and associates it with child-like qualities which are taboo to be sexualized, which makes it seem pedo-creepy". There, fixed that for you. In western cultures generally, garters are lingerie, and not professional if you aren't a sex worker or lingerie model (or ok, maybe a rock star).

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by PrimeMcFly »

jrm4 wrote: post #87

Genuine and serious praise for not insisting on sticking with an absurdly embarassing and arguably problematic name that would be likely to hamper adoption for quite some time, unlike a certain other free and open source painting program.

How is Gimp any different from Nintendo using 'Wii'?

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by Vrondi »

nojonestownpls wrote: post #112
dahart wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s 100% straw man. The issue isn’t the anime cultural reference, the issue is that the splash screens are a slightly suggestive picture of a female child/teenager who’s not in my family, which is creepy for adult males to have on display at work regardless of which country you live in.

Just to be sure, is this the image you're seeing: https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/electrichearts_... That's the one that comes up on the splash screen for me, and if you see that as in any way "suggestive", that's disturbing to me. Would you have the same problem if they had Mickey Mouse in their splash screen? After all, he is topless and arguably more suggestive than Kiki is in any way.

That one just seems unprofessional in so much as it is child-like. There is another where she is visibly wearing garters, which is not child-like for the past more than a century.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by chungy »

colonwqbang wrote: post #120
blauditore wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean Gimp? I don't think that's so relevant. Did Git suffer from the same problem?

I guess both are meant to be a kind of joke, calling your software a bad name in jest. But I think the joke works much better in the case of "git". Depending on what you read into it, calling someone a "gimp" is really quite offensive. git: A silly, incompetent, stupid or annoying person (usually a man). gimp: A person who is lame due to a crippling of the legs or feet.

GIMP was so named without an awareness that it coincided with pejorative. It wasn't an intentional joke.
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