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Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by LegitShady »

sigstoat wrote: post #98
SahAssar wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Free as in mattress, and free as in piano I don't get it, could you explain?

the mattress could be infected with bedbugs. and a piano that's been unmaintained for enough decades isn't an instrument any more, and never will be. and disposing of them is expensive. they have negative value, despite not costing any money.

Around me free pianos are just worth less than the cost to move them, not that there is anything wrong with them a professional couldn't tune.

I see people trying to sell old Yamaha organs and they lower the price until it becomes "free just take it out of here so I don't have to pay someone to do it."

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by nojonestownpls »

dahart wrote: post #57
nojonestownpls wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's not from my culture and I find unfamiliar things scary, so I'm gonna call it NSFW"

That’s 100% straw man. The issue isn’t the anime cultural reference, the issue is that the splash screens are a slightly suggestive picture of a female child/teenager who’s not in my family, which is creepy for adult males to have on display at work regardless of which country you live in.

Just to be sure, is this the image you're seeing: https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/electrichearts_...

That's the one that comes up on the splash screen for me, and if you see that as in any way "suggestive", that's disturbing to me.

Would you have the same problem if they had Mickey Mouse in their splash screen? After all, he is topless and arguably more suggestive than Kiki is in any way.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by tekla »

jrm4 wrote: post #87

Genuine and serious praise for not insisting on sticking with an absurdly embarassing and arguably problematic name that would be likely to hamper adoption for quite some time, unlike a certain other free and open source painting program.

What is absurd and problematic about GIMP?

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by dahart »

nojonestownpls wrote: post #112
dahart wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s 100% straw man. The issue isn’t the anime cultural reference, the issue is that the splash screens are a slightly suggestive picture of a female child/teenager who’s not in my family, which is creepy for adult males to have on display at work regardless of which country you live in.

Just to be sure, is this the image you're seeing: https://krita.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/electrichearts_... That's the one that comes up on the splash screen for me, and if you see that as in any way "suggestive", that's disturbing to me. Would you have the same problem if they had Mickey Mouse in their splash screen? After all, he is topless and arguably more suggestive than Kiki is in any way.

No that one’s on the less suggestive side of the various Krita splash screens. (Still not something I would want to hang a poster of at work.) Do a Google image search for “Krita splash screen” and look at the broader set. These are more suggestive than the one in your comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35773999 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35773357

I’m not going to touch the Mickey comment, that’s weird.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by Kelamir »

hallarempt wrote: post #104
Kelamir wrote: post #28

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There is no longer any development work done in Russia.

hallarempt, thanks for making that clear - I have no issue with the project in that case. Also thanks a lot for maintaining Krita, I've used the software in the past and it's been great. I'm especially interested in combining Stable Diffusion with Krita.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by 29athrowaway »

pmayrgundter wrote: post #5

I used to use Gimp for photoshop type operations but it's become unusable for me due to slowness, even with a M1 native build. No idea what's up. Tried Krita and it works great

Gimp has not yet been converted to GTK 3 and now GTK 4 is out.

Gimp looks pretty bad in HiDPI and the GTK 3 build is not yet stable.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by bigbaguette »

dahart wrote: post #57
nojonestownpls wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's not from my culture and I find unfamiliar things scary, so I'm gonna call it NSFW"

That’s 100% straw man. The issue isn’t the anime cultural reference, the issue is that the splash screens are a slightly suggestive picture of a female child/teenager who’s not in my family, which is creepy for adult males to have on display at work regardless of which country you live in.

> regardless of which country you live in.

I usually don't go into these kind on discussions, especially on HN, but allow me to mention that in many countries, nobody would think much of such splash screen even at work. And that doesn't mean in any way that the person in question is creepy or that anyone else around would think so for a minute. If this artwork would trigger a reaction, this wouldn't go further than "hey, nice drawing" without any afterthoughts.

Seeing this picture as suggestive is immensely conditioned by the personal and cultural background of the beholder and his community. These norms aren't universal.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by torstenvl »

blauditore wrote: post #95
jrm4 wrote: post #87

Genuine and serious praise for not insisting on sticking with an absurdly embarassing and arguably problematic name that would be likely to hamper adoption for quite some time, unlike a certain other free and open source painting program.

Do you mean Gimp? I don't think that's so relevant. Did Git suffer from the same problem?

The Web is an imperfect corpus, but "git" is less commonly used as an insult. Even once you git rid of all the software references with "git -software -version -torvalds -branch -commit -github -repo -repository" your primary definitions are as a synonym for "get," e.g., the top result is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Git!

Compare to "gimp -image -org" where the top result is not only an insult, but an ableist one that would instantly land you a trip to HR.

Re: Krita: A professional free and open source painting program

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Post by colonwqbang »

blauditore wrote: post #95
jrm4 wrote: post #87

Genuine and serious praise for not insisting on sticking with an absurdly embarassing and arguably problematic name that would be likely to hamper adoption for quite some time, unlike a certain other free and open source painting program.

Do you mean Gimp? I don't think that's so relevant. Did Git suffer from the same problem?

I guess both are meant to be a kind of joke, calling your software a bad name in jest. But I think the joke works much better in the case of "git". Depending on what you read into it, calling someone a "gimp" is really quite offensive.

git: A silly, incompetent, stupid or annoying person (usually a man).

gimp: A person who is lame due to a crippling of the legs or feet.

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