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Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by williamcotton »

The first step is state-issued public-key cryptographic identification cards.

I have been making this argument for years with regards to human actors but perhaps with enough fear of the machines sentiment coursing through society the argument will now be considered.

Authentically Human in a World of ChatGPT

https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/authentically-human-i...

And the article from years ago:

The Tyranny of the Anonymous

https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/the-tyranny-of-the-an...

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by version_five »

williamcotton wrote: post #11

The first step is state-issued public-key cryptographic identification cards. I have been making this argument for years with regards to human actors but perhaps with enough fear of the machines sentiment coursing through society the argument will now be considered. Authentically Human in a World of ChatGPT https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/authentically-human-i... And the article from years ago: The Tyranny of…

I'm assuming this is satire. This is exactly my concern about all the recent hype - people are going to use it as an excuse to lock down computing, for commercial benefit and as a power grab.

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by dlkf »

ramraj07 wrote: post #2

What little consolation I had that maybe the experts of AI who continued to insist we needn’t worry too much know better, evaporates with this news. I am reminded that even a year back the experts were absolutely confident (as is mentioned in this article, including Hinton) that really intelligent AI is 30 years ahead. Anyone still trying to argue that we needn’t worry about AI, better have a mathematical proof of th…

The experts have been confident that AI is 30 years out for about 70 years now.

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by rvz »

williamcotton wrote: post #11

The first step is state-issued public-key cryptographic identification cards. I have been making this argument for years with regards to human actors but perhaps with enough fear of the machines sentiment coursing through society the argument will now be considered. Authentically Human in a World of ChatGPT https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/authentically-human-i... And the article from years ago: The Tyranny of…

> The first step is state-issued public-key cryptographic identification cards.

Governments totally love this antidote. I wonder who could be selling this sort of snake-oil to them whilst also being on the other side selling the poison...

...No-one else but Sam Altman's World Coin scam. [0]

[0] https://worldcoin.org/blog/engineering/humanness-in-the-age-...

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by williamcotton »

version_five wrote: post #13
williamcotton wrote: post #11

The first step is state-issued public-key cryptographic identification cards. I have been making this argument for years with regards to human actors but perhaps with enough fear of the machines sentiment coursing through society the argument will now be considered. Authentically Human in a World of ChatGPT https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/authentically-human-i... And the article from years ago: The Tyranny of…

I'm assuming this is satire. This is exactly my concern about all the recent hype - people are going to use it as an excuse to lock down computing, for commercial benefit and as a power grab.

I double-dog-dare you to read those articles and then reconsider your comment. You’ll see why!

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by Tanjreeve »

dlkf wrote: post #14
ramraj07 wrote: post #2

What little consolation I had that maybe the experts of AI who continued to insist we needn’t worry too much know better, evaporates with this news. I am reminded that even a year back the experts were absolutely confident (as is mentioned in this article, including Hinton) that really intelligent AI is 30 years ahead. Anyone still trying to argue that we needn’t worry about AI, better have a mathematical proof of th…

The experts have been confident that AI is 30 years out for about 70 years now.

Excited tech bloggers/columnists != Experts.

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by MontyCarloHall »

version_five wrote: post #13
williamcotton wrote: post #11

The first step is state-issued public-key cryptographic identification cards. I have been making this argument for years with regards to human actors but perhaps with enough fear of the machines sentiment coursing through society the argument will now be considered. Authentically Human in a World of ChatGPT https://www.williamcotton.com/articles/authentically-human-i... And the article from years ago: The Tyranny of…

I'm assuming this is satire. This is exactly my concern about all the recent hype - people are going to use it as an excuse to lock down computing, for commercial benefit and as a power grab.

Authentication != locking down computing.

Content that’s cryptographically signed by its creator would (hopefully) have more credence than unsigned AI generated fake content purporting to be from someone else, e.g. deepfakes.

Anonymity would not be heavy-handedly prohibited; rather, anonymous content would simply appear untrustworthy relative to authenticated content. It is up to the viewer to decide.

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by sumtechguy »

ramraj07 wrote: post #2

What little consolation I had that maybe the experts of AI who continued to insist we needn’t worry too much know better, evaporates with this news. I am reminded that even a year back the experts were absolutely confident (as is mentioned in this article, including Hinton) that really intelligent AI is 30 years ahead. Anyone still trying to argue that we needn’t worry about AI, better have a mathematical proof of th…

I am not worried about AI. I am more worried about those who use it and those who are building it and mostly those who control it. This is true for all technologies.

Re: Geoffrey Hinton leaves Google and warns of danger ahead

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Post by tenebrisalietum »

nologic01 wrote: post #4

> the average person will not be able to know what is true anymore We barely held things together as society without AI unleashing cognitive noise at industrial scale. Somehow we must find ways to re-channel the potential of digital technology for the betterment of society, not its annihilation.

I don't think it will be so bad.

All Internet comment sections, pictures, video, and really anything on electronic screens will become assumed false by default.

Therefore the only use of the Internet and most technology capable of generating audio and video will be entertainment.

I already distrust-by-default most of what is online that isn't hard reference material, even if not AI generated.

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