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Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by andromeduck »

modeless wrote: post #42
MBCook wrote: post #15

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I kind of like what Nvidia has been doing in GPUs. They have series. 1000s, 2000s, 3000s. Each generate is a new series. Then the products inside seem to be in performance order. A 3080 is better than a 3060 is better than a 3020 (if that exists). I know it gets messier than that. The fact that they add the titanium versions kind of screws with it. And in the last year they had that card they had to renumber because…

If you think Nvidia's product naming makes any kind of sense, try a few rounds of my GPU quiz: https://james.darpinian.com/gpu-quiz.html

Took ~30 for me to get one wrong.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by iforgotpassword »

p1necone wrote: post #41
klodolph wrote: post #32

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The problem with Nvidia is that I blinked and the numbers wrapped around, so a GeForce RTX 4070 is really new, but a GeForce FX 5200 is really old.

Same! I still remember the 8800gtx being "current" high end and the 2XX cards being the recently announced space-age new ones. Then I stuck with AMD for a while (the HD 4870 followed by the R9 390, both were very compelling options from a $/perf standpoint when they were current from what I remember) and by the time NVidia came back on my radar again they'd gone through another whole ~10 generation cycle of 3 digit n…

Ahem, the same happened with ATI, they just were lucky to have been renamed to AMD on the way.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

speedgoose wrote: post #57
Dylan16807 wrote: post #49

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Cars don't double in performance over the course of five years.

The BMW i3 when from 22kWh to 42kWh in a few years but that’s a bit the exception.

BMW 5-series with an ICE engine vs BMW i3 EV. Apples and oranges.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by iforgotpassword »

IntelMiner wrote: post #68
mhh__ wrote: post #44

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I did it for 12 questions or so and didn't get any wrong. The naming schemes are completely, completely, retarded but they also aren't that hard to guess

[flagged]

Yeah, that hard r was totally uncalled for.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by marak830 »

userbinator wrote: post #30
MBCook wrote: post #15

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I kind of like what Nvidia has been doing in GPUs. They have series. 1000s, 2000s, 3000s. Each generate is a new series. Then the products inside seem to be in performance order. A 3080 is better than a 3060 is better than a 3020 (if that exists). I know it gets messier than that. The fact that they add the titanium versions kind of screws with it. And in the last year they had that card they had to renumber because…

But at least you know a 3080 is two generations newer than a 1080. That's similar to what Intel was doing with the numbers following the i{3,5,7,9}: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_processors

I believe his point is, that the I(3/5/7/9) moniker represents the chip power relation, but which generation of the chip is hidden, unlike with say the GeForce cards with the 10xx/20xx/30xx.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by gambiting »

Brands are just going bananas trying to get rid of their own identity for some reason. It's the same as Land Rover(JLR) announcing that they won't call their cars land rover anymore, "because customers find it confusing". Apparently according to their spokesperson "no one says they own a Land Rover Defender, it's just a Defender". Like.....everyone ok in the head over there at the HQ?

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by bubblethink »

MBCook wrote: post #39
rincebrain wrote: post #17

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Well, if we have 32 cores at 2 GHz, and 48 cores at 1.5 GHz, from the same chip architecture, which is better? For some workloads, it's one; for others, it's the other. A one-dimensional performance axis is hard in practice.

You could use a synthetic benchmark. Create your own Geekbench like thing and use those numbers. Intel-$singlecore-$multicore So an Intel-6-12 had twice the single core performance of the Intel-3-48 but is much worse in multicore. Yeah, things are WAY more complicated. But at least it gives you a chance without memorizing spec sheets first. Higher numbers are always better. No redefining. This year’s 5 can’t be bette…

>Intel-$singlecore-$multicore

There will be power specs, and igpu specs, and ecc, and so on. It's hard to capture succinctly.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by wruza »

As someone who didn’t know but then learned it, I don’t think it is a good idea. Naive people say “I have i7”, so what? All enthusiasts refer to model numbers like 12700k. i-notation is useful in a “today” context like “recent i7” or “compared to previous i7”. This is exactly what less savvy consumers want when buying a modern pc. Latest-ish i-something to do-something like gaming, video editing or spreadsheets.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by gambiting »

klodolph wrote: post #32
MBCook wrote: post #15

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I kind of like what Nvidia has been doing in GPUs. They have series. 1000s, 2000s, 3000s. Each generate is a new series. Then the products inside seem to be in performance order. A 3080 is better than a 3060 is better than a 3020 (if that exists). I know it gets messier than that. The fact that they add the titanium versions kind of screws with it. And in the last year they had that card they had to renumber because…

The problem with Nvidia is that I blinked and the numbers wrapped around, so a GeForce RTX 4070 is really new, but a GeForce FX 5200 is really old.

That's a pretty long blink to be fair - there's 20 years(!!!!) gap between the two.

Re: Intel to drop the “I” moniker in upcoming CPU rebrand

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Post by gambiting »

klodolph wrote: post #6

I do think the i3/i5/i7/i9 monikers are actually pretty confusing, just speaking as someone who has been using computers much longer than the brand existed. Problem is that a CPU from 2009 is going to be called an “i5” and there are just so many people who say they have an “i5” or “i7” without knowing what generation it is from.

I can maybe accept that argument, but their new branding (according to the article) definitely won't help with that. Intel Ultra 5 1003H?

At a glance, how is that different to relatively recent Intel i5 10030H???

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