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Chess is booming among teens

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Re: Chess is booming among teens

#11
I visted my relatives recently, and i was shocked. At first I though it was a new clash of clans type of trendy game, but its actually chess!

The teenagers have chess.com installed everyhere and are challenging each other nonstop, sometimes with real chess boards too!

There's social pyramid starting to form, with one of the younger ones conquering the game with no clear challenger, its football but for people who don't like football.

Its fascinating how an old and not very hip game became a crazy trend so fast.

Re: Chess is booming among teens

#12
A lot of people seem surprised but honestly chess has always been one of the most popular games around. In most countries every sizeable town has chess clubs, leagues there's probably tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of players globally. As a chess player it's great to see that it has made inroads online with its popularity on Twitch among streamers and now kids in school, but it has always had a wide appeal.

Also encouraging that kids pick it over more distracting activities. One of the biggest benefits I've reaped from playing is just the ability to deeply focus and concentrate. Not a bad skill nowadays.

Re: Chess is booming among teens

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This is wild. Chess feels old-school and boring to me. Don't understand how it's competing with modern sources of entertainment.

Modern sources of entertainment are dressed up in a lot of fluff. Blow all that fluff away and you're left with nothing that is any better than games and stories that have been with us since forever.

The kids these days are drowning in novelties of the sort that were scarce to me as a child. It stands to reason they wouldn't be as easily impressed or fooled by such things.

Re: Chess is booming among teens

#14
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This is wild. Chess feels old-school and boring to me. Don't understand how it's competing with modern sources of entertainment.

I've never been interested in chess because it seemed to be way too much work to be good enough to have fun.

Things have gotten much easier now, you can get endless stream of free puzzles that are as fun as any puzzle game and adapt to your skill level... I'm still not that interested in actually playing but it's really the ultimate single player game for phones, always slightly challenging and takes as little or as much time as you want.

Re: Chess is booming among teens

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This is wild. Chess feels old-school and boring to me. Don't understand how it's competing with modern sources of entertainment.

I think the main reason, besides chess being fundamentally a great and timeless game, is streaming. Popular streamers picked it up and many top level players also started streaming online chess, which can be very entertaining. Often they are playing fast, exciting time controls like 1 or 2 minutes. Chess.com and others brought flavorful tournament coverage and hosted events with guests from outside the chess world. C…

This is the answer, my kids are all Into it and they really Love Gotham chess (I think that’s what it is called and Hikaru as well) I’m sure there are others but I’m already out of my element.

Re: Chess is booming among teens

#17
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This is wild. Chess feels old-school and boring to me. Don't understand how it's competing with modern sources of entertainment.

I kinda agree with Bobby on that front:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P349BdHUxlc&t=0s

There's too much that's simply memorisation over skills, deep lines leading you down well traversed paths.

Creativity and ingenuity suffer.

The only real option* if you want interesting games is to make intentionally bad moves so that theory falls apart, and that's only an option against weaker players.

You can play with the more restricted time controls - but that only mixes things up by forcing mistakes, not by introducing well considered novel moves.

* There's always Fischer random.

https://thechessworld.com/articles/openings/5-chess-openings...

There's probably a limit as to how bad a move you want to make: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnes_Opening

You're probably better of going with dubious openings, rather than actively bad: https://lichess.org/study/FzX9K6ff.

Re: Chess is booming among teens

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This is wild. Chess feels old-school and boring to me. Don't understand how it's competing with modern sources of entertainment.

Speaking as someone who has gotten addicted to online chess in the past couple years, I think it's a combination of factors:

- Short time format makes for intense, fast paced games

- Starting a game only takes a few taps, and you can be done in a few minutes

- ELO ratings give you a number to obsess over improving, and online matching puts you against even opponents

- Instant post-game analysis

- Large amount of Twitch/Youtube content make it more fun to learn and follow the community

Re: Chess is booming among teens

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post #3

This is wild. Chess feels old-school and boring to me. Don't understand how it's competing with modern sources of entertainment.

I kinda agree with Bobby on that front: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P349BdHUxlc&t=0s There's too much that's simply memorisation over skills, deep lines leading you down well traversed paths. Creativity and ingenuity suffer. The only real option* if you want interesting games is to make intentionally bad moves so that theory falls apart, and that's only an option against weaker players. You can play with the more…

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Re: Chess is booming among teens

#20
Chess is having its soccer moment now. Here is why:

1- The entry cost has fallen dramatically. Before at a minimum you'd need to afford a chess set and a couple of books. Now, all you need is a parents phone. This is similar to soccer, where the entry cost is any ball you can find.

2- its egalitarian. Your size, sex, height, and even age do not matter. This has always been true but now its more pronounced with apps blurrying entry further. This is also similar to soccer in that even age differences dont really matter

3 - learning curve has flattened dramatically. This to me is key. In soccer, anyone can jump in an play even if you cant learn by watching. This was not true for chess until apps came along. It is particularly powerful that kids no longer need to follow notation or boring books to learn how to play well. Everything can now be taught by video, at your own pace.

4 - chess is now hyper social. This is another key element also enabled by apps. By being a 2 player game, its not a game that is social by nature. However, now you can be social anytime, anywhere. No board required.

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