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A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by nine_k »

jjeaff wrote: post #31
neel8986 wrote: post #12

Meta is still a 600B company and large credit goes to Zukerberg. His insight into jumping to mobile at the very beginning, making critical acquisitions, relentlessly going to new geographies, investment in AI all played off. Every major company made mistake including Google ( Google Plus ), Microsoft ( Windows phone ) and apple ( entire 90s ). A company making mistake just means they are still taking risks and not sa…

It's easy to look like a visionary leader when people will rewrite history for you. Facebook was famously late to mobile and almost missed the boat. Luckily, they had the resources to plow into catching up around 2012.

Who were the mobile pioneers who blazed the trail? Where are they now?

Let's exclude Apple and Google from the competition because they own the mobile platforms.

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by flanked-evergl »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #8

> In a statement, Meta spokesman Dave Arnold said the conditions that led to the layoffs are “well known and reverberating throughout the industry.” Sad that you can get away with a statement like that.

> Sad that you can get away with a statement like that.

What mechanism would you say should prevent someone from making a statement like that?

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by sp332 »

muglug wrote: post #20
neel8986 wrote: post #12

Meta is still a 600B company and large credit goes to Zukerberg. His insight into jumping to mobile at the very beginning, making critical acquisitions, relentlessly going to new geographies, investment in AI all played off. Every major company made mistake including Google ( Google Plus ), Microsoft ( Windows phone ) and apple ( entire 90s ). A company making mistake just means they are still taking risks and not sa…

The problem of VR goes beyond hardware innovation: most people don’t want to completely shut themselves off from the world for hours on end.

If my friends and I are socializing in VR, it's not exactly shut off from the world. Anyway Hololens and Apple's upcoming XR glasses don't block out the world in the first place.

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by nixgeek »

treeman79 wrote: post #17
quantumwoke wrote: post #5

For me the big turning point at Meta was the acquisition of Oculus. At the time, it was great, forward-thinking and gave everyone a lot of hope for the future of Meta and even society if you believed the hype. This peaked at about 2020 when the opportunity for VR and remote work became real and necessary due to an unprecedented pandemic. However, we all know the rest; hyperfocus on VR to the detriment of the rest of…

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Many of the alternate treatments were widely decried by medical professionals as being unsafe.

Much of the discourse which Facebook and others ended up deciding they didn’t want on their platforms was tied to (or related to, or resulted in) the criminal conduct at the U.S. Capitol which has resulted in 10’s of people being imprisoned, and with many more criminal investigations and prosecutions still underway.

I don’t see why these platforms shouldn’t be allowed and indeed expected to moderate extreme behavior, or the advocacy of and incitement to criminal activities, or the promotion of medically unsafe treatments during a pandemic.

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by zaroth »

treeman79 wrote: post #17
quantumwoke wrote: post #5

For me the big turning point at Meta was the acquisition of Oculus. At the time, it was great, forward-thinking and gave everyone a lot of hope for the future of Meta and even society if you believed the hype. This peaked at about 2020 when the opportunity for VR and remote work became real and necessary due to an unprecedented pandemic. However, we all know the rest; hyperfocus on VR to the detriment of the rest of…

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This is a Washington Post article. Instead they claimed it was “allowing disinformation in 2016” that contributed to problems - what a joke they are still trying to push that narrative.

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by dan-robertson »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #8

> In a statement, Meta spokesman Dave Arnold said the conditions that led to the layoffs are “well known and reverberating throughout the industry.” Sad that you can get away with a statement like that.

Not really sure what you mean by ‘get away with’. Journalists are obliged to ask companies to comment and spokespeople make those comments. The spokesman doesn’t get interviewed or grilled and it is generally left to the reader to interpret the comment and decide if the spokesperson has ‘gotten away with it’.

Do you have the same reaction whenever an organisation has a scandal and they ‘don’t want to comment on an ongoing investigation’?

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by marsven_422 »

monero-xmr wrote: post #26
muglug wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem of VR goes beyond hardware innovation: most people don’t want to completely shut themselves off from the world for hours on end.

I have friends that got married, never had kids, and spend large chunks of their free time in MMORPGs, League of Legends, and a seemingly endless array of virtual-based entertainment. They also seem to get a lot of personal meaning and satisfaction from nerd pop culture like Star Wars and The Lord of the Rings which is evidence that their rich fantasy lives have such deep meaning for them. So I find it totally plausi…

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Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by zaroth »

nixgeek wrote: post #44
treeman79 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Many of the alternate treatments were widely decried by medical professionals as being unsafe. Much of the discourse which Facebook and others ended up deciding they didn’t want on their platforms was tied to (or related to, or resulted in) the criminal conduct at the U.S. Capitol which has resulted in 10’s of people being imprisoned, and with many more criminal investigations and prosecutions still underway. I don’t…

If by “ended up deciding they didn’t want on their platform” you mean being told by the USG to remove it, and when they didn’t remove enough of it, the President called them mass-murderers and threatened to do something about it?

The arrests of Jan 6 protestors, you mean like the “QAnon Shaman” who was guided through the Capital by police and had that evidence illegally withheld by the prosecution, and then when the truth came out was released?

Re: A morale crisis after multiple Meta layoffs

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Post by [deleted] »

jjeaff wrote: post #31
neel8986 wrote: post #12

Meta is still a 600B company and large credit goes to Zukerberg. His insight into jumping to mobile at the very beginning, making critical acquisitions, relentlessly going to new geographies, investment in AI all played off. Every major company made mistake including Google ( Google Plus ), Microsoft ( Windows phone ) and apple ( entire 90s ). A company making mistake just means they are still taking risks and not sa…

It's easy to look like a visionary leader when people will rewrite history for you. Facebook was famously late to mobile and almost missed the boat. Luckily, they had the resources to plow into catching up around 2012.

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