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U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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I grew up being told I could do anything I put my mind to. That I was responsible, to a very large degree, for my own path and making my dreams come true. I don't understand how those told that they're disadvantaged can persevere and succeed. Especially when they're told that it's the system's fault. It takes seeking out adversity, embracing and enjoying it to push ahead. If you're uncomfortable at your basal level,…

Leftists argue your mindset is a symptom of the toxic mantras of neoliberalism. It's basically a Protestant work ethic: Highly individualistic, and little sense of commonality or cooperation.

Thats the reasonable argument against your ethics, in that a community or team can do things that are impossible for any individual. It's absolutely true, and can't be refuted.

But that's also the trap that modern society is falling into. We do not operate in nuance. We *could* combine ethics such as yours with community efforts and empower everyone, but instead we're trying to squash individuality, and enforce toxic mantras of community!

The modern left eschews nuance and reacts with self-destructive vengeance, and that's the core problem with their politics. They equate liberals with neoliberals, neoliberals with conservatives, conservatives with Nazis, and Nazis with the boogeyman.

To them the individual is absolute evil. So, I think the best thing to do is attempt to assuage their fears: show them that individuals can work together to improve society for everyone, without destroying individual values.

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>Advertisement is not a free speech. Yes it obviously is. Even advertisements that make people feel bad are free speech.

It shouldn't be and whoever decided it is should have that reversed. "The Supreme Court extended First Amendment free speech protection to commercial speech in Virginia Citizens Consumer Council, Inc. (1976). The court held that commercial speech is protected by the First Amendment because it serves the public interest by providing information about products and services." And since it became apparent that it's not t…

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Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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> Fundamentally, I do not see this situation getting any better because of how society is wired right now. It think tight regulation of advertisement industry could help. They really have all the incentive to make people feel worse. It directly translates to their income. There should be pre-publishing check on every advert. Like a focus group paid for by advertiser, but organized by government body. If it makes peop…

>Advertisement is not a free speech. Yes it obviously is. Even advertisements that make people feel bad are free speech.

Libre if you have money and by extension the opposite of gratis; and even then, in the US there are limits on what can be legally said in an advert.

https://truthinadvertising.org/resource/federal-laws-governi...

(Although, IANAL, so I can't tell if that page is an accurate summary or if it's the legal equivalent of someone ranting about why the CEO of Facebook can't stop naughty pictures showing up in Google search results…)

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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I am 100% with you. Parents should have the right and responsibility to monitor and regulate their children's consumption of aforementioned tools.

Yes, personal responsibility™ is the root cause here. Not corporations that have been making hyper addictive applications and maximising engagement for profit. While I don't blame anyone solely, there's lots of blame to go around - solely blaming the parents doesn't hold up. Kids are ostracized if they don't have a smartphone, don't have TikTok, and don't have YouTube. It's easy to blame the parents, but it's unreaso…

When I say parents, I mean precisely the people who should be regulating these things and dealing with the corporations.

Parents are the adults in society, so if they're not doing anything about it then no one is.

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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Look around you and observe your friends, family, colleagues, or a significant other, but really: any adults. This is not only affecting "teen girls", and certainly not only US people.

We need more research on this without "teen girls" in the clickbait titles. This affects everyone. It affected the person of my romantic interest and I had to break up at the end.

This affects 30+ year old men too. Don't dismiss it.

Besides research we need solutions. We need advice on how to approach this topic. We need to find a way to be able to help those who want it.

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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It will be interesting to see what happens when Elon turns Twitter into a payment platform.

It's already basically a platform here in Japan for women to advertise their services and arrange encounters with older men... just need to use one's imagination.

All that's left is to monetize the depressed crazies that make up the remainder of the userbase.

Re: U.S. Teen Girls Experiencing Increased Sadness and Violence

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> More than 1 in 10 (14%) had ever been forced to have sex 14% of all the teenage girls are raped? How is this possible? I'm really not the one to grab the pitchfork first for sure but this... I don't know... How are we okay with this?

In previous cases, the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad, to the point of straining credulity. I can't say where these particular statistics have come from, but prior statistical nonsense here has poisoned the well for me.

Question was:

>Have you ever been physically forced to have sexual intercourse when you did not want to?

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We have rules and regulation on what we can physically eat (eg. most psychedelics drugs are illegal, maybe rightly so, I'm not contesting the validity of that, but just stating they exists) so why don't we have rules for mental food?

It baffles me that I cannot eat some spices from Asia just because for most local people is kinda indigestible or not good, basically destroying the market for that kind of spice. Yet, we can allow big corps to produce shitty social media apps without any rules.

There should be an FDA for mental things.

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> More than 1 in 10 (14%) had ever been forced to have sex 14% of all the teenage girls are raped? How is this possible? I'm really not the one to grab the pitchfork first for sure but this... I don't know... How are we okay with this?

In previous cases, the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad, to the point of straining credulity. I can't say where these particular statistics have come from, but prior statistical nonsense here has poisoned the well for me.

> the questions regarding rape have been phrased to be incredibly broad

If forced sexual intercourse does not fit your definition of rape, perhaps that's what's being too narrow?

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