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Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#151

So according to the comments it isn't actually gone, just the wording updated and now dependent on if you have actually set up the mailer to report it somewhere https://github.com/sudo-project/sudo/commit/9757d29a24ac1872...

That seems pretty stupid. While they're at it, why not update the SSH warning banner with a list of what we do and don't log on this system. As a courtesy to their adversary. This sudo message has been the same since the dawn of time. There is literally no reason to correct it. This is the one place you don't want to be pedantic, leaking security configuration via stderr.

That message is poor UI. If you know what it means, you probably don't care about the possibility of sudo sending an email when you first typed it. If you don't know, you will be worried probably without a good reason to be so.

Nowadays it's even worse than it once was, because now the natural instinct of people is to think that the incident was reported to canonical or ibm. The opposite of how they are supposed to feel about when using free software.

I'd change it to "This attempted was logged" or something like that when that is true. Just so the user is aware that the data they are typing there may be seen by someone else. But by default, in their own systems, that message should never appear, unless they specifically configured it that way.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#152
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I once entered 'sudo echo hi" or something similar on a large HPCC and received an email back from a sysadmin that just said "hello".

There's the talk command on Unix. We used to do a 'who' to find out who're on the system and 'talk' to them.

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Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

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I was always disappointed it never summoned some grumpy graybeard unix admin from a dark server room basement to give me a chiding lecture.

I got a chiding lecture like that from some skinny UUG-type security admins, by manually shutting down my HP-UX workstation in a university CS lab. I had reached behind it and flipped the power switch. I tried to flip it back on just afterward, to resume my business (lol) but found that my login was blocked with a message...come up to security in room 300-something and talk to us to get your account un-suspended. The…

They have a pretty amazing creamery at Washington State University as well... have a milkshake after lunch, you won't need dinner. Go Cougs!

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#154
Can't be done. That program is in the fossil record; change the error message and you're going to break a thousand unknown workflows that are relying on detecting that string (because string detection is the only solution they have to get nuanced information on the nature of the error).

ETA: Oh wait it was actually committed? Color me surprised.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#155

Can't be done. That program is in the fossil record; change the error message and you're going to break a thousand unknown workflows that are relying on detecting that string (because string detection is the only solution they have to get nuanced information on the nature of the error). ETA: Oh wait it was actually committed? Color me surprised.

Yeah I relied on that over heating to occur when pressing Ctrl for too long :D

(Hopefully someone understands the reference)

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#156
post #113
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

something like 99% of computers with sudo installed are single-user machines where the only effect of the warning is to scare people and it's only been the same since people started to switch to sudo in the late 90s; su never printed such a warning

>the only effect of the warning is to scare people Good. If you're not familiar with what sudo does, then you shouldn't be using it in the first place.

i'd argue in a different direction: if sudo barks a scary unknown message at me, i'd avoid using it altogether and just use su, which is the opposite of what people should be nudged to do.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#157
post #155

Can't be done. That program is in the fossil record; change the error message and you're going to break a thousand unknown workflows that are relying on detecting that string (because string detection is the only solution they have to get nuanced information on the nature of the error). ETA: Oh wait it was actually committed? Color me surprised.

Yeah I relied on that over heating to occur when pressing Ctrl for too long :D (Hopefully someone understands the reference)

https://xkcd.com/1172/ !!

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#158

Why can't I report all those idiots posting the letter "F" in github comments? ;)

Strong agree on that. One person doing so was possibly amusing, everyone else jumping on the wagon is just irritating noise, and I’m not even responsible for trying to sift through that for legitimate feedback.

The point of the joke is that it's a bandwagon joke.

Re: Remove “This incident will be reported.” from user warnings

#160
post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Your transgression has been noted and punishment may be dispensed accordingly”.

"A disapproving God has noted your infraction, and Santa Claus has added an entry on the naughty list for you"

"There will be consequences"
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