I have tinnitus, so i only need perfect relative pitch.
Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
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Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#122Lately I have a theory about perfect pitch training as an 18+ year old human, I think we will achieve it (my friend and I) via the following: Using Tuesdays to practice E chord songs, using Thursdays to practice C# minor chord songs. One day play only E songs, one day play only C#m songs, do this several weeks, pick 2 new chords for 2 fresh days, repeat.
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
May you please explain ELI5 what "perfect pitch" means? (I was told I was a musical savant, and once I was told that, I was scared away from music... my Violin teacher was known to be owb of the best, SO i dont know what "perfect pitch" is, as I attribute it to 'bad actors'
Perfect pitch means that you can identify (give the name of) different pitches without the help of instruments. This is a rare ability even for trained musicians.
We need a GPT for musical pitch. (unpack that)
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#124Interval-training is a lot more useful. Regardless of what key you're in, particularly if you're not playing (or don't know how to play) from sheet music. E.g. given two notes, what is the distance between them in semitones.
Once you can recognize any interval then, given a pitch, you can identify the other notes in any chord (major, minor, etc.) it's a part of. Useful for tuning instruments (e.g. guitar). Useful for understanding chord notation (charts), and what chords are being used (progressions). Useful for quickly figuring out all the notes in a melody. (Especially one you want to remember.) Useful for deciding what -scale- is being used (dorian, phrygian, pentatonic, etc.)
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Had to look up the technique, Eguchi method, and it uses color rather than complicated musical notation to associate with each key. Interesting how those who have synesthesia naturally have this same color, key association.
But not every synesthetic person sees the same colors for every key, right?
I have a step in my fashion work where I pause and consider what the colors I’m selecting will look and feel like to a normal person. Converting back and forth between [optimistic-seaglass-springtime] and “teal” isn’t very accurate, but I’m certainly accustomed to it. I’m going to try this technique soon now that I know about it; as I’m already color sensitive to pitch, I suspect the value will be in training that sensitivity rather than memorizing their hues.
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#126I was forced to learn piano when I was 6, really hated it and ended in 2 years. When I really got into music in high school and started playing guitar it's an amazing feeling to discover I actually have perfect pitch. However the perfect pitch I have is an inferior one, I sometimes even miss a note by a half step, curious if someone is the same.
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#127I am a professional musician (bassoon player in a symphony orchestra). I can, if I practice it a couple of times a week, achieve and sustain perfect pitch. I had no semblance of perfect pitch until I decided to practice it at age 24. Before that the only chance I had to guess a note was to put in in relation to my own voice. Even though I don't practice this anymore (it isn't very useful), I still often just instinct…
Cellist for the last 35 years here. No perfect pitch. My "perfect" note identification is based on timbre: I know what each note sounds like on the instruments I know intimately. For synthetic tones, I will be off +/- 3 semitones because I will be using an aural memory of the cello a string as a reference, rather than recognizing the frequency like the perfect pitch folks do. Never occurred to me to practice perfect…
from what I understand, perfect absolute pitch is (to me) of negative value in the sense that it makes you annoyed at a lot of music. I've heard some people say it makes them not enjoy practicing pieces with other musicians. I think "why be aggravated if I don't have to?"
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#128While I think it's pretty cool, is absolute pitch actually "useful" for music-making? I feel relative notations (I-V-vi-IV) capture the essense of a piece of music better than absolute notations (C-G-Amin-F). It's just my layman opinion though.
Not that useful if you have very good relative pitch. One advantage is you can walk in a jam and start playing from bar 1, instead of having to figure out which key they're in. However if you have good relative pitch you can also figure it out within 10 seconds.
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
Absolute pitch is just a learned skill like a lot of other things. People learn to identify the pitches because they sound different and learn the names for them. Nerd note: the name "Perfect pitch" is something of a misnomer because the frequencies the note names refer to is a social construct which has changed over time[1]. A=440 is the predominant concert pitch now but since "pitch taste" generally gets brighter/s…
> Absolute pitch is just a learned skill like a lot of other things. Is that true though? I had a friend in college who had perfect pitch. I asked him all the time how he learned it, and he said he didn't know. It just started happening. He never explicitly trained for it. It also wasn't just about notes. He could nearly instantaneously tell chords and keys from the radio or going to the symphony. I would test him us…
He practiced somehow if he knew the names. You can practice a skill without being trained.
Re: Children aged 2-6 successfully trained to acquire absolute pitch (2012)
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It's very useful for a session musician. You could pick up a song without hunting for the key.
I have perfect pitch and find it to be quite a burden in certain ways: it's very, very hard to transpose in real time.
Why do you need to transpose? You mean when playing a transposed instrument like woodwinds / brass?