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Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by clupprich »

rmc wrote: post #28
ck2 wrote: post #24

Maybe http://m.gmail.com ? What about ssh tunneling over an alternate port? Gosh I cannot believe governments that do this to their people. I wonder if they are ironically using American engineered equipment and software to do the block too.

Maybe http://m.gmail.com ? If they are blocking https traffic, they are almost certainly intercepting and scanning http traffic (lots of countries do this, e.g. lots of UK ISPs did this to censor wikipedia). So, even if you were to be able to access gmail over http, you probably don't want to. :)

What parts of Wikipedia did they censor? Quite interested in that.

Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by humanfromearth »

They control the physical network. As long as they have that control they will be able to do what they want. The only way to deal with these fuckers (not just Iran) is to start using collectively Ipsec or something similar. All SSL movement is just the beginning. I'm sure every big service will try to encrypt it's traffic more and more to protect itself from governments that try to criminalize their users.

Forcing countries like China, Iran and US to go into dark ages if they don't use the new all encrypted networks.

It's a shame that we are so paranoid as a species that we need to do that, but I don't see any other way.

I know this is extreme, but I don't want to see the freedom I enjoy right now taken away by these obsolete power hungry entities.

Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by cicloid »

Sara70 wrote: post #3
cicloid wrote: post #2

Is Tor still working?

I used to use Tor with firefox before but with my internet connection it was very slow.

Sadly from what I know, that's because of the lack of nodes. But you can volunteer!

https://www.torproject.org/getinvolved/volunteer.html.en

Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by kokey »

emilsedgh wrote: post #22
zckevin wrote: post #8

We Chinese use VPN or SSH port forwarding.

They drop all encrypted connections. Which means you cant even make a VPN or SSH connection.

Which basically means you need to do encryption in a manner that doesn't look like encryption, inside of something that's unencrypted. For example over DNS, inside of HTTP, or other protocols designed for moving code like RPC.

Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by csomar »

I'm grateful for the Tunisian revolution. Internet Censorship (including ports disable) is at 0. The court justice has ordered to censor a few pages (because of some reasons) but the Global Internet provider in the country did not accept. The head of this agency is also working that the law prohibits any kind of censorship for any reasons. He was responsible for censoring content in the Ben Ali era, but he now thinks that it just doesn't make sense.

The problem is, with the people (in the court or the gov.) who don't understand how the Internet works.

Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by haraldk »

rplnt wrote: post #14
emilsedgh wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They drop all encrypted connections. This means no https, no IMAP over TLS and no SSH connections. (Im in Iran)

So where would one find SSL over http implementation? You know, you send your usual POST to a proxy, only the body would be an actual request. Whole handshake could probably be done like this. Not even the proxy would (wouldn't have to) know the content. Encrypted body could be translated to valid XML for extra effect.

What you think of is a covert channel [1]. There is a bunch of them, bu check out iodine [2]

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covert_channel [2] http://code.kryo.se/iodine/

Re: Iran Shuts Down Major Websites and Https Protocol

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Post by Elhana »

clupprich wrote: post #31
rmc wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe http://m.gmail.com ? If they are blocking https traffic, they are almost certainly intercepting and scanning http traffic (lots of countries do this, e.g. lots of UK ISPs did this to censor wikipedia). So, even if you were to be able to access gmail over http, you probably don't want to. :)

What parts of Wikipedia did they censor? Quite interested in that.

I guess wikileaks, not wikipedia
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