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California approves rule phasing out big diesel trucks and buses in 2036

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Re: California approves rule phasing out big diesel trucks and buses in 2036

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On the one hand, a ton of people have giant diesel trucks for no reason other than anatomy comparisons, on the other: diesels are more fuel efficient, and have greater torque than petrol. If you compare to EVs you have to consider the working scenario for a truck that does benefit from diesel: You have a fixed amount of time under load, after which you have significant charging downtime, in the order of hours if its in typical rural areas which don't have superchargers everywhere.

Re: California approves rule phasing out big diesel trucks and buses in 2036

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> starting in 2036 WAAAAAAY too late. Even if it were "by 2036", that would STILL be too late.

Unless you've got a magic plan to snap your fingers and get vital infrastructure built overnight, I'd say they're going to be lucky if they can even hit this.

I'm glad to see things forcing the issue, but I suspect this is going to lead to very awkward/stupid/worse workarounds rather than serious adoption. If we're lucky the tech will continue to progress at a pace that makes this feasible, but if they don't support this with massive rail infrastructure (which, spoiler, they won't) then there's going to be serious logistics issues.

Re: California approves rule phasing out big diesel trucks and buses in 2036

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Diesel engines play a huge role in our current life (food, goods, trash, you name it) and the current electric offerings are essentially a joke compared to what a diesel engine can do… but here’s hoping that by 2036 things are different.

Could trains replace diesel trucks? Would require building and maintaining a large amount of railroad, but solves the energy supply issue.

Though it would probably would not help for delivering goods to smaller cities which cannot justify their own railroad.

Re: California approves rule phasing out big diesel trucks and buses in 2036

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Diesel engines play a huge role in our current life (food, goods, trash, you name it) and the current electric offerings are essentially a joke compared to what a diesel engine can do… but here’s hoping that by 2036 things are different.

Natural gas can replace diesel for most trucks and buses. The particulate emissions are much lower. Many buses already run on that fuel. This will require new engines, or in some cases whole new vehicles.

Re: California approves rule phasing out big diesel trucks and buses in 2036

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On the one hand, a ton of people have giant diesel trucks for no reason other than anatomy comparisons, on the other: diesels are more fuel efficient, and have greater torque than petrol. If you compare to EVs you have to consider the working scenario for a truck that does benefit from diesel: You have a fixed amount of time under load, after which you have significant charging downtime, in the order of hours if its…

You know people who own big rigs to show off? I haven't really seen people driving those as personal vehicles before, the closest I've seen are F550 based RVs since smaller truck chassis wouldn't be legal or able to carry that much weight.
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