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Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by jsnell »

gumballindie wrote: post #209
mock-possum wrote: post #207

Earlier quoted context omitted.

who's 'we,' white man? I've never been billed.

> white man? Eh? > I've never been billed. Curious how much people's bills are inflated by ai crawlers constantly sucking their data and how much in revenue is lost since traffic is not brought to their websites. And since there's no way to stop this theft, since most of them don't honor robots.txt, people are forced to remove content. Perhaps those charged for bandwidth are losing some dime right now.

> Eh?

It's the punchline of a vaguely racist old joke involving Lone Ranger and Tonto. I have to admit that I also often think of when somebody uses "we" inappropriately to make their opinion or experience appear universal.

(But as seen here, you can't really just drop the punchline into a conversation.)

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by [deleted] »

jsnell wrote: post #211
gumballindie wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> white man? Eh? > I've never been billed. Curious how much people's bills are inflated by ai crawlers constantly sucking their data and how much in revenue is lost since traffic is not brought to their websites. And since there's no way to stop this theft, since most of them don't honor robots.txt, people are forced to remove content. Perhaps those charged for bandwidth are losing some dime right now.

> Eh? It's the punchline of a vaguely racist old joke involving Lone Ranger and Tonto. I have to admit that I also often think of when somebody uses "we" inappropriately to make their opinion or experience appear universal. (But as seen here, you can't really just drop the punchline into a conversation.)

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Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by chrsjxn »

TheObviousOne wrote: post #195
dcow wrote: post #191

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No it abuses security vulnerabilities in 3rd party businesses who are using OpenAI. It doesn't get you access to OpenAI's api at OpenAI's expense. It gets you access at [vulnerable 3rd party]'s expense. Bankrupting someone using OpenAI doesn't seem to achieve much in the way of democratization of AI tools, sorry.

it's not bankrupting them, as the author is highly ethic (by using only "Big companies" open apis and remove the small one and the ones that ask from him to be removed). But as for your comment, i see it rather as opportunity to make it only with Opt-in by the companies themselves. That way it will actually make it even win-win situation for them for Marketing and Ads (with lower price).

Only stealing from people who haven't asked you nicely to stop doesn't scream "highly ethical" to me

Security researchers put a lot of emphasis on responsibly disclosing vulnerabilities. The maintainers of this project could have easily done the same, but they didn't

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by cardosof »

Veen wrote: post #77
cardosof wrote: post #58

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If someone I didn't grant access broke (in a very smart way) into my house, turned on the lights for a minute and then left, I'd still be pissed and would call it illegal.

The situations aren't really comparable. We're talking about sending a request from a computer to a publicly available API endpoint that Open AI would rather you didn't, and then using the data that endpoint sends in response. (Somewhat tangential, the "networks as a 3D space you travel around in with locations you visit" analogy does more harm than good. It's not what's happening and it results in muddled thinking.)

I don't disagree your second paragraph, I'm just curious - can you elaborate more on why is that?

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by spzb »

wtallis wrote: post #124
spzb wrote: post #76

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I'm not a lawyer or even an American but that certainly isn't how the DMCA works. The takedown is issued against the hosting company and, if they comply, they have no further liability. If they don't comply, they are liable in court so, of course, they all comply.

There's a difference between being compelled by a court order to take down a repo and choosing to comply with a DMCA takedown notice of dubious validity because you don't want to waste any more time on the issue and are happy to screw your users.

There’s also a difference between how you’d like the world to be and the way the world actually is.

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by spzb »

berkle4455 wrote: post #205
spzb wrote: post #80

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My bank's website is publicly available. That doesn't mean anyone is free to access my bank account. Just 'cause something is accessible on the internet doesn't mean you have the right to access it. Case law and statute goes back at least to the 1980s on this point.

The aforementioned tools do nothing whatsoever to grant to access accounts which aren’t theirs.

I know. That’s not what I said.

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by xtekky »

transitivebs wrote: post #75

I was also given a takedown notice by OpenAI for the ChatGPT twitter bot github repo: https://github.com/transitive-bullshit/chatgpt-twitter-bot This was ~2 months ago, and I'm fortunate enough to have a direct contact at OpenAI who I complained to. He came back promptly and told me it was a mistake and the takedown notice was retracted. I also changed the twitter bot's logo to be purple instead of green to avoid fut…

Hi, would you able to contact me on discord? tekky#1810 I am looking for a solution.

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by snet0 »

RobotToaster wrote: post #116
mden wrote: post #63

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Is the gas in the car you parked publicly really yours ("private") if there is a way to siphon it out? Just because there is a way to obtain a resource doesn't make it yours automatically..

An API is a publicly available service. It's more like having a tap with a sign over it saying "free gas", then getting mad when people use it.

It's more like having "free gas for people staying at this motel".

Re: Gpt4free repo given takedown notice by OpenAI

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Post by codedokode »

glitchc wrote: post #174
codedokode wrote: post #46

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But isn't DMCA about protecting copyrighted content? And the copyright to ChatGPT responses must belong to the one who have asked a question because ChatGPT is just a tool. Whoever is using the tool should own the copyright on replies.

Yes, and DMCA includes specific protections against breaking or circumventing locks that restrict access to copyrighted content.

But ChatGPT responses are not copyrighted and cannot be copyrighted by OpenAI. They are the work of whoever asked a question, so in this case the user bypasses the protection to create its own work, not to read someone's else work.
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