I'm disappointed that 90% of the discussion is on the first 3 paragraphs of the article. I wrote about C++ and DirectX, too.
Why I develop on Windows
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Re: Why I develop on Windows
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not that bad. I'm mostly balking at the idea of `ConvertFrom-Json | ForEach-Object { $_.name }` being any easier to remember than `jq '.[].name' -r`. Both examples seem to "convert" text to JSON with a parser, it's like arguing over the difference between awk and catting into grep. Neither really seem more advantageous than the other.
I find the former much more self-explanatory than the latter but, for instance, can't ForEach-Object be written as for?
I'm still a PowerShell novice, but I believe ForEach-Object and ForEach are subtly different, and PowerShell has classic For(Init; Condition; Increment) loops also but it's even more different than those two.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
After 3 decades working on Windows, I recently got into Linux and stared learning bash through "The Linux Command Line, 5th ed." book and watching youtube videos. Powershell is so much nicer and a lot more productive to work with compared to bash. Unlike the bash commands that returns strings, Powershell commands return objects. Working in any OOP language and Powershell feels very natural.
What’s the dirs -v, pushd and popd equivalent in PS?
popd and pushd are aliases for Pop-Location and Push-Location, so they are the PowerShell equivalent. Unsure about dir -v.
dir itself is an alias for Get-ChildItem, but I don't know about -v (natural sort of version number)
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could they keep the files in WSL and run their IDEs in Windows?
IIRC, they were cloning in WSL, but AIUI at the time, WSL is still subject to the requirements Windows imposes on filenames. (I'm not a WSL expert, so I could be wrong here.)
Inside the filesystem shim, WSL will replace forbidden characters with unicode private use characters by adding 0xF000.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#85From everything I've heard about Windows turning into user-hostile bloatware over the last few years, nothing in this post seems like a good enough reason to use it. Perhaps it's Stockholm syndrom, but I honestly like my Unix-y tools (bash, jq, awk) at this point Also, regarding this example { $Env:MYSQL_HOST = "MyHost.com"; $Env:MYSQL_USER = "MyUser"; java -jar myprogram.jar; } You can do the same thing in Bash with…
People were complaining that Windows was "user-hostile bloatware" as long as there's been a Windows to complain about.
Sometimes a cliche is a cliche for a reason.
I certainly felt the hostility when I discovered the preloaded apps and ads in my Win11 install that aren't included in the much more expensive enterprise version.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#86I actually kind of agree with the point about PowerShell but I suppose the problem is everyone is so used to bash scripts that they've forgotten how many annoying pitfalls they have and how cryptic they are to anyone not used to writing them. A lot of resistance to PoSh is just about it being something different.
IMHO if you are already fluent in bash and aren't running or administering windows machines, there's not much point to switch. And I personally think PowerShell is nicer, but like 10% not 10x, and they do the same things. If you know some bash though, googling PowerShell and the bash command has been pretty productive for my learning.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dude, your comments are way too good to have an empty profile. No, I did not know of Rider, but next time that I get the C# itch again, I'll definitely be looking at what I've been missing out on! Checking it out quickly, it's from JetBrains (a good sign for software quality) and has a 30-day trial so I'd know what I'm paying for. On the downside, ~175€ is quite steep given that it's not for a commercial purpose and…
> Dude, your comments are way too good to have an empty profile Thanks! I really appreciate that. Been kind of a bummer year so it's nice to hear (#layoff problems, so I'm definitely not the only one, and I think that's looking up recently) I don't think I'd get Rider by itself, either. I was doing consulting for awhile and ended up getting the jetbrains all product thing personally because was jumping between Goland…
FYI I tried CLion for Rust, but did not feel any improvement of experience in comparison to VS Code + Rust analyzer plugin, so I cancelled CLion. In fact, VS Code somehow felt better.
I do use Rider 50/50 with big Visual Studio though. Mostly because I feel that the need to eventually switch to Linux is creeping as Windows adds more junk.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The powershell command names though Just wondering if you're talking about command name length or something else? Asking because it comes up a lot and almost all the common commands have idiomatic short/terse versions (gci for Get-ChildItem, etc). No shade, though. No reason you'd know if you don't have a reason to know it. Would love to hear if I'm making the wrong assumption and it's something else you're talking…
It's just a knee-jerk reaction people have in any thread where powershell is mentioned. "Hur hur long command names." Doesn't bring anything to the discussion.
It has its benefits, other people's scripts are very readable, and often you can just guess the correct command without having to look anything up.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#89Regarding NodeJS and being cross platform, why didn’t the company just use path.join?
Because developers are lazy. I've given up the fight that is "use the language's features for path manipulation" in code review at this point. People just wanna string concat.
I don't know. This lowers the bar.
Re: Why I develop on Windows
#90Microsoft has made Linux development cool again after got derailed by macOS. Nowadays you can use almost all Linux tools on Windows. They also provide Windows Terminal which is rather excellent.