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U.S. Rep. Angie Craig drops college requirement for staffers

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I'm 100% on-board with requiring an actual med school degree for my doctor rather than a skills-based test.

How would a degree be a stronger signal of competency than a standardized skills-based test?

GP seemed to be suggesting replacing the degree requirement with a skills-based test.

For doctors, I'm perfectly comfortable requiring both and do not accept the replacement of a degree with a skills-based test.

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There is an active political element in the U.S. that believes that “defunding” police is the answer. While they may have some valid arguments, they don’t see things from your perspective at all. We had city-burning protests for months for a career criminal high on illegal drugs committing crime. In a few days after, there were worldwide protests and political statements (GF portraits on the Berlin Wall?!?). Those th…

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Due process started with the liquor store rightly calling the police about receiving a counterfeit bill from an intoxicated individual and the police questioning the suspect. When your culture tells you to resist, and you do, you have given up due process.

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I have a friend with no college degree but a number of certifications in the insurance industry and most of a master's degree in a humanities field. Should said friend be allowed to proofread communications going out from Angie Craig's office? I have a friend with an associate's degree who has great customer service skills. Should said friend be allowed to be a receptionist for Angie Craig? I love education, I indulg…

Is MN State (not just Mankato) really 20k a year? Is CC really 20k a year there?

Mankato state is $14k a year before books etc. Metro State is cheaper, if you pick the right classes. Someplace like Concordia is $20k or a bit more; Hamline or Augsburg is up to $40k. Sure it's all sticker price. I tried to pick a number on the low end for the Twin Cities given the location of Craig's office. The 2 year colleges are cheaper but the requirement above is specifically for 4 yr degrees.

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I have a friend with no college degree but a number of certifications in the insurance industry and most of a master's degree in a humanities field. Should said friend be allowed to proofread communications going out from Angie Craig's office? I have a friend with an associate's degree who has great customer service skills. Should said friend be allowed to be a receptionist for Angie Craig? I love education, I indulg…

I don't think you can have "most of a master's degree" when you're missing the obvious pre-requisite of a bachelor's degree.

Sure you can. All you have to do is get admitted. I have a friend with a PhD and no high school or college degree. This person is indeed both smart and good at talking their way into things.

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Sort of related, ontario is dropping university requirements for police: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-eliminating-edu... I wonder if it's coincidence or the start of a trend back to sanity about job qualifications. Ironically, by becoming almost ubiquitous, university education also becomes irrelevant.

I'd prefer police officers with EMT (and preferably paramedic) training to those with four-year sociology degrees. Knowledge of DNA and computer forensic methods and necessities, though, would probably improve their chances of getting promoted, as would legal training. However, those skills could easily be learned at two-year community college progams. All in all, I think this kind of focus would lead to a more profe…

I honestly believe 90% of our police in the U.S. could not pass an EMT course.

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Due process started with the liquor store rightly calling the police about receiving a counterfeit bill from an intoxicated individual and the police questioning the suspect. When your culture tells you to resist, and you do, you have given up due process.

the society you get by deciding that tired jocks with guns and a 2-4x of baseline rate of domestic violence and an unstoppable union should get to decide what due process is bad. law enforcers should have to follow the law. also I am willing to bet you don’t know much about due process because there is no way you’re an attorney but I’ll eat my shoe if you show me where you’re licensed to practice law.

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What do your kids plan to do after HS? If they regret the decision after seeing their friends go off to college, couldn't they apply next year and say they took a gap year to do all the things they missed out on during COVID, or some such thing?

They don’t really have plans. (This is part of the problem.) My plan is to ask them to get jobs & take some increased responsibility for their own needs & wants after high school. I’m pretty willing to support them if they have _some_ kind of plan (start a company? Volunteer somewhere? Sure.) You never know, they might apply to college in a year (or later), but they’ll still live with choices like not taking any adva…

What caused them to opt out in this way? I would imagine it wasn't driven by developments like the one described in the article, since this is pretty uncommon.

If your kids don't end up going to college, wouldn't it actually be good if there were more jobs open to them?

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Being a cop in Germany is much easier and less risky job than in US, because they have 50% more cops per capita while having something like 15% the crime rate of US. This means that, as a very rough estimate, there is something like 16 times more crimes per cop in US than in Germany. This is made even worse by things like US criminal being much more insane and erratic than German ones (Germany has a more collectivist…

Wild to suggest that the US's issue is not incarcerating enough people considering we are near the top of the global leaderboards on that front. Specifically in comparison to Germany, the incarceration rate is almost 8x higher in the US. You are also ignoring how the unprofessional nature of police contribute to the problem. Their behavior creates an adversarial relationship with the public. This has all sorts of neg…

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Due process started with the liquor store rightly calling the police about receiving a counterfeit bill from an intoxicated individual and the police questioning the suspect. When your culture tells you to resist, and you do, you have given up due process.

So u r saying he deserves to be dead? And by culture u mean u r a racist right? Btw do u know white ppl r killed too?

Thanks for saying the quiet part loud, that's all we need to see ;).

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Sort of related, ontario is dropping university requirements for police: https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ontario-eliminating-edu... I wonder if it's coincidence or the start of a trend back to sanity about job qualifications. Ironically, by becoming almost ubiquitous, university education also becomes irrelevant.

Police should definitely be more highly educated, we see the result of them not being so in the US

the solution is just to fire bad cops. The future bad cops will get the picture. no way to really pre screen cops other than keeping out known criminals.
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