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"...distort reality..." A lot of people said that about him: it was his famous reality distortion field.
It's funny to see the famed reality distortion field, so often mentioned in terms of admiration of salesmanship and persuasiveness, with so many entrepreneurs attempting to emulate it, appear in an actual FBI file as some sort of evidence of potential criminality or unfitness for public service.
The FBI's files on Steve Jobs
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#152"He belonged to no organizations other than the New York Athletic Club however he had never been in the New York Athletic Club and knew nothing with regard to their membership policies." Why was he a member of the New York Athletic Club? Did someone give him a membership as a gift? (At the time, he did own an apartment at 146 Central Park West in New York City. [Edit: I didn't know that either. It was stated in the p…
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
In the interview with the FBI Jobs also stated that "during the period of approximately 1970-1974 he experimented with marijuana, hashish and lsd. This was during high school and college and he mostly used the substances by himself." p.48
I love the page after that where they say he was "not a member of the communist party." Even for the government that seems not even worth writing down.
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And why would you ever ever release information on vetting ok Steve is dead but all the people who where interviewed are not and neither are Steves family. Would you like to read a recently deceased loved ones warts and all developed vetting report - what public interest is served by this. It is also open to abuse by muck raking hacks I sure Guido Fawlks would love to see the files on Polly Toynbees (Guardian journal…
You use the phrase "muck raking" like it's a bad thing.
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#155This is outstanding reporting requesting and staying on the request for information, and it's a fascinating look at Jobs and the government process of vetting White House appointments in 1991. Note that they are still obsessed with the idea of anyone belonging to or contributing to the Communist Party and even checked if had relatives in foreign countries who might have been Communists (they couldn't find any). I als…
To expand on liber8's point, the "red scare" and such seems funny and unreasonable now, but it's important to remember that during the cold war, the USA and the Soviet Union were very much enemies . To put it in another way, would we think the FBI was out-of-bounds today if background checks today included determining if the person being vetted (or their family members) were associated with a terrorist organization?…
A russian friend of mine says the same was not true in Russia. They were aware of the cold war, obviously, but 'knew' that their leaders, no matter how incompetant or corrupt, would never initiate the exchange.
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Note that they are still obsessed with the idea of anyone belonging to or contributing to the Communist Party and even checked if had relatives in foreign countries who might have been Communists (they couldn't find any). Their continued focus upon past drug use is also anachronistic. I have not yet read the the document all the way thought, but so far they have mentioned it no fewer than a dozen times. The FBI's p…
Maybe, but the whole point of these interviews are to try to determine how susceptible a person is to being "turned", that is, blackmailed/bribed/forced against their will to working against US interests. Maybe the FBI is being stodgy, but if someone has been addicted to certain illegal drugs (I know, I know, use doesn't mean addiction ) that's one additional angle an "enemy" could use to exploit this person.
He also mentioned three general levels of clearance - classified, secret negative, secret positive. Negative is closer to a background check in style. Positive is the exhaustive fine-toothed comb.
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And programming (at least for some of us :p) is exactly the opposite--it's usually portrayed as dry and relatively boring, like clerk work, but in reality is actually pretty awesome.
Not to an outsider: Oh look... he's typing away at things for hours on end. Our results may be cool, but the process certainly isn't; at least as far as other 'building' jobs look.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's funny to see the famed reality distortion field, so often mentioned in terms of admiration of salesmanship and persuasiveness, with so many entrepreneurs attempting to emulate it, appear in an actual FBI file as some sort of evidence of potential criminality or unfitness for public service.
Unfitness? Pretty sure it's what qualified him for the appointment.
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#159I enjoyed reading this. Sometimes I watch too many cop shows and think that I want to become a detective. Then I read reports like this, and realize that 99% of police work is producing reports like this one. You may get to interview the occasional reference, but you're probably not going to be getting into many gunfights. I feel mislead by fictional television programs :)
Watch The Wire. Most realistic portrayal of police work I've ever seen. Lots of watching suspects and gathering string, putting the pieces of the puzzle together slowly over a season of television, dealing with disfunctional organizations and a realistically low number of gunfights. One of the best TV shows ever made IMO.
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
"...distort reality..." A lot of people said that about him: it was his famous reality distortion field.
It's funny to see the famed reality distortion field, so often mentioned in terms of admiration of salesmanship and persuasiveness, with so many entrepreneurs attempting to emulate it, appear in an actual FBI file as some sort of evidence of potential criminality or unfitness for public service.