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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by empyrrhicist »

mardifoufs wrote: post #314
el_benhameen wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their swype-style keyboard is an absolute joke—perhaps the most infuriating part of my iphone. I know that it’s easier to criticize than it is to implement, but my god, just a basic markov chain would yield more intelligible results than the shit it comes up with.

For some very odd reason, swipe keyboard technology seems to have peaked around 2014, never to reach those heights again. I remember being amazed by how great swiping was, and after using it recently (it's not really great on gboard or samsung keyboard either, not bad but just meh) I was wondering if it was just rose tinted glass. But nope, I booted up my old nexus 5 with a normal gboard (not even swiftkey!) and it w…

Could it be related to screen size and finger mechanics?

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by ricardobeat »

MrGilbert wrote: post #340
aembleton wrote: post #329

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Can't you just change the keyboard on your iPhone?

You can, but it's not really endorsed by Apple. As such, some folks don't even know about that. Personally, I like to use SwiftKey. //Edit: Would really like to know for what I got down voted for?

I haven’t downvoted, but might be because third-party keyboards have been officially supported for many year in iOS. Your comment gives the impression they’re some kind of hack.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by BlandDuck »

lynx23 wrote: post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

It's unbelievable that Apple hasn't been able to do better.

My 'favorite' Siri 'feature' is when I ask for directions to 'home' it gives me directions to the local Home Depot.... really???

EDIT: After thinking about this for a while, the reason this irks me is that 'directions to home' is one of the most basic asks. I am not asking Siri to play some obscure unreleased track from an underground British punk band. I am asking for directions to my home, and it fails.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by terhechte »

mitemte wrote: post #317
zer0zzz wrote: post #288

Former Apple Employee here: I still remember for one WWDC my colleague’s talk had to be altered to change all mentions of “A-Series” socs to “A7 and later” to avoid triggering “Hey Siri” on every single person’s phone in the audience.

A scene in the second most recent episode of Ted Lasso, when a character uses Siri on their iPhone triggered Siri on my HomePod Mini in the same room. Siri attempted to follow the instructions spoken by the character but failed miserably. If Apple is going to plug their half baked assistant in their shows, the least they could do is prevent it from being invoked. It may vary by language – I’m in Australia and the cha…

The same Ted Lasso thing happened to us. It's strange because Apple produces this content. You'd think they'd make sure their Apple+ content doesn't lead to bad Siri hiccups

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by footlose_3815 »

I think it's not far-fetched to say that everyone hates brand-promoting voice assistants whose job first is to make money for a company.

I don't trust any voice assistant because I know every query is being stored, analyzed, and I don't own my own communications with the asssistant. I also don't get to customize the assistant.

It's basically a shitty-future branding assistant who is inclined to send you to product pages and shit to buy.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by footlose_3815 »

el_benhameen wrote: post #285
voytec wrote: post #279

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> The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Input recognition quality falling all over the place - it's very much noticeable with their onscreen keyboards as well. Some "intelligent" mechanisms know better which button I tried to tap and I'm getting gibberish even with auto-correct off. It's the same on iPhone and Watch. Apple has already forced me to re-learn keyboards once - with th…

Their swype-style keyboard is an absolute joke—perhaps the most infuriating part of my iphone. I know that it’s easier to criticize than it is to implement, but my god, just a basic markov chain would yield more intelligible results than the shit it comes up with.

I find swiping better than screen touch-typing, but still not as good as old QWERTY.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by mardifoufs »

empyrrhicist wrote: post #361
mardifoufs wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For some very odd reason, swipe keyboard technology seems to have peaked around 2014, never to reach those heights again. I remember being amazed by how great swiping was, and after using it recently (it's not really great on gboard or samsung keyboard either, not bad but just meh) I was wondering if it was just rose tinted glass. But nope, I booted up my old nexus 5 with a normal gboard (not even swiftkey!) and it w…

Could it be related to screen size and finger mechanics?

That honestly could be it! My past few galaxy phones have been narrower and taller than my old note4 (the nexus was more compact but with an aspect ratio that was more "square" ). The narrow and tall screens makes hitting keys a lot harder, now that I think about it.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by SSLy »

c0m wrote: post #309
el_benhameen wrote: post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their swype-style keyboard is an absolute joke—perhaps the most infuriating part of my iphone. I know that it’s easier to criticize than it is to implement, but my god, just a basic markov chain would yield more intelligible results than the shit it comes up with.

Totally agree so I installed SwiftKey. It worked great for years and I’ve been super happy! Then in the last year, SwiftKey has been randomly crashing so while I type I swap between the SwiftKey and normal keyboard unwillingly several times per message. The built-in keyboard seems absolutely determined to believe that the word 'fuck' does not exist.

for crashing reinstall of swiftkey helped me. seems stable ever since
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