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Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by vrc »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #251
lynx23 wrote: post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

> Very funny if you ask a simply question like "Where am I" and your voice-assistant is fucking with you about pseudophilosophically. well sure, not funny for the person actually going through it, but as the premise of a skit seems to hold some promise.

I believe GP stating s/he’s blind in the previous sentence means s/he’s grabbed the short end of the stick on this one

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by NathanOsullivan »

pram wrote: post #117
Avamander wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst part about Siri in my opinion is how it can do bulk actions when it mishears you. You want the ceiling light off? Okay, turning off all the lights. Or the opposite, it turns *everything* on, which can be even more annoying.

They're all complete crap. I use Google Home to ONLY turn my lights on or off and it gets it like 60% of the time. Sometimes it accepts the command and it just doesn't even work and says something went wrong. Pressing the light button in the app is 100% consistent. Incredible.

It's not a good reason but I believe this happens because voice command has to go to Google server, Google talk to light vendor API, light vendor communicates with your device, and lights go off only if all of this succeeds.

Meanwhile, button in vendor app will not use internet so lot less can go wrong.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by cubefox »

khazhoux wrote: post #226
cubefox wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no "English" here, it's a name of a concrete person which has only one correct pronunciation. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/De-Bach....

The accurate pronunciation in German is irrelevant. Siri is always constrained to one language (Settings > General > Language & Region), and when set to English you get English pronunciations. Same way Siri understands the english “Los Angeles” even though the G sound is completely different from Spanish. The english IPA for Bach is straightforward.

So how would you have to pronounce "Chopin" in "English"? This doesn't make sense. There aren't even consistent pronunciation rules for many genuine English words, like "ead" in "read" and "thread". It's not even straightforward for English speakers to correctly pronounce "Eliezer Yudkowsky". Which means it's even harder for Siri.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by mcv »

Osiris wrote: post #327

I ride a motorcycle and rely on voice commands to interact with my phone since I keep it in my pocket. Siri’s most common response to me: “You have to unlock your iPhone to do that”. Not helpful.

I have the opposite problem: Siri, or more recently Google's version of it, butting into a conversation because it thinks it heard something. Very annoying. I recently kicked Google Search off my phone because that seemed to be the only way to get rid of it.

This stuff needs to be optional and not forced down our throats, and it needs to be more user-controlled, work when we want it and not when we don't want it.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by ciroduran »

mostlysimilar wrote: post #104
lynx23 wrote: post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

It's infuriating when I ask Siri to play a song and it decides to pick an obscure remix of the song one day, the actual song another day, then another remix another day. Did they test this at all? Why would you ever pick a more complex/verbose option from the results list?

I stopped using Siri because it does recognise the artist/song I want, and then it plays a completely different thing, not even a related genre.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by cubefox »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #321
cubefox wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no "English" here, it's a name of a concrete person which has only one correct pronunciation. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/De-Bach....

> it's a name of a concrete person which has only one correct pronunciation. This is an insane standard. The [x] at the end of the German word doesn't exist in English; most English speakers wouldn't be able to pronounce it if they wanted to. When the demands you're making are literally impossible, the problem is you.

So just because the "th" sound doesn't exist in many languages, like German, they should pronounce "Heath Ledger" or "Anthony Hopkins" or "The Beatles" incorrectly? That seems to me a way more "insane" standard. By the way, the Scottish are perfectly able to pronounce "Loch Ness", which has the same sound for "ch" as "Bach".

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by johannes1234321 »

madmoose wrote: post #292
WalterBright wrote: post #282

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> They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. Probably should be careful with "I am sinking!"

> "I am sinking!" Wat are you sinking about?

Reference: https://youtu.be/yR0lWICH3rY (partially German, but I believe works without understanding German)

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Post by MrGilbert »

aembleton wrote: post #329
xvector wrote: post #289

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It's honestly a complete travesty. Strongly considering ditching my iPhone for the upcoming Pixel Fold or whatever it'll be called.

Can't you just change the keyboard on your iPhone?

You can, but it's not really endorsed by Apple. As such, some folks don't even know about that. Personally, I like to use SwiftKey.

//Edit: Would really like to know for what I got down voted for?

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