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Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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My kid in the future probably will want to have a conversation with a machine that sounds and talks like a character from a book or school lesson. ChatGPT has gotten us there in writing, and the AI generated vocals are already really close. Unless apple acquires OpenAI, Siri is doomed.

> Unless apple acquires OpenAI, Siri is doomed.

They surely have enough ressources to train a competitive LLM themselves...

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

> They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. Probably should be careful with "I am sinking!"

> "I am sinking!"

Wat are you sinking about?

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

Apple does lay some turds. MobileMe. Whatever their attempt to make iTunes into a social media network was called. Maps until recently. Usually they fix them, but Siri never seems to get better. For what it's worth, I think Alexa has gotten worse, but for different reasons.

Alexa has always worked better from across the room, but nowadays an Echo device will do very little aside from weather and timers without trying to sell you a subscription.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

> The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Input recognition quality falling all over the place - it's very much noticeable with their onscreen keyboards as well. Some "intelligent" mechanisms know better which button I tried to tap and I'm getting gibberish even with auto-correct off. It's the same on iPhone and Watch. Apple has already forced me to re-learn keyboards once - with th…

The keyboards on the Apple M Macbooks are good, having used one myself... Except there's this feeling that Macbook keyboards fundamentally "work" differently to all other keyboards out there.

I'm primarily a Windows wizard, I use my Macbook for specific tasks and it's not my daily driver. I can type on my Macbook mostly fine, but occasionally it misses some of my key inputs. I know the keyboard works, the key in question types in properly when I press it again, but nonetheless I have the occasional input go missing as I type.

I don't know why this is the case, it annoys me, and I'm left wondering if it's the keyboard with no obvious defects or my typing which works flawlessly with literally all other keyboards I ever come across.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

What totally strikes me as odd is, that Siri on iPad even reacts to the Audible player in the background.

Most false positive triggers stem from Audible books as well as audio play from the Apple Audio.

Sometimes I feel Siri is desperate to be triggered, because if hardly ever, I use it in the car when I have to change direction and need to set a new course on a Map app.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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post #91

Siri, don't make me even start. I like much of what Apple does, but Siri is just hilariously bad. The error rate at speech recognition seems to have gone up over the years. Keywords are randomly being changed, sometimes they fire, a day later you have to use a different phrase to get what you want. They even broke "Where am I" at least in German. "Wo bin ich" is sometimes replied to with "Sein oder nicht sein" (to be…

just wait a few month

"as an ai language model, I don't know your location"

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Bach” is a word like any other, and unambiguous in English pronunciation.

There is no "English" here, it's a name of a concrete person which has only one correct pronunciation. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/De-Bach....

Cumberbach

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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I use Siri fairly frequently for setting timers, controlling my smart home and the like, but for me where it falls down is really understanding natural language. Personally I found that google assistant was way way ahead of siri in this regard. I could ask it to do something and it would just understand what I want. One issue I frequently have with siri is that commands that work one day suddenly don't the next. If I…

Does anyone know why I have this problem with Siri on my Apple Watch? “Set a timer for 15 minutes” Siri: “timer app is not installed” Excuse me? It most certainly is. Try again later and it works.

Siri likes to be helpful. While you were wondering about the timer app, she went ahead and installed it for you! /s

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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I use Siri for laundry timers on Apple Watch. A very simple task you'd think, but it occasionally tells me that this doesn't work without my iPhone nearby, even though it's an activate LTE watch and there's even WIFI available.

Then I use Siri a lot with my HomePods for music. It works rather well, but when it fails it hurts. Sometimes a new song is playing that I like. So I say "Hey Siri add this song to my inbox playlist." Siri then occasionally tells me "OK, I'm playing some-other-song-you-didn't-ask-for." There is then no way to return back to the previous song or find out what it was.

I hate Siri when these things happen.

Re: Even Apple employees hate Siri and are skeptical of its future, new report says

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Former Apple Employee here: I still remember for one WWDC my colleague’s talk had to be altered to change all mentions of “A-Series” socs to “A7 and later” to avoid triggering “Hey Siri” on every single person’s phone in the audience.

That made my day! Just a few weeks ago I was watching a 'Shrinking' episode on Apple TV where they said "Hey Siri play " and then my HomePod saying "OK I'll play for you" and me yelling back "Hey Siri stop! I'm watching TV".

Modern live...

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