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Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by mcsniff »

satvikpendem wrote: post #82
Prbeek wrote: post #58

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Who launches an IOS first app in 2023? You are telling android users that they are not important

Everyone (who wants to make money from their app)? I own an Android and I'd still launch an iOS app first because the vast majority of mobile revenue comes from iOS, not Android. At the very most I'd use Flutter to launch on both platforms at once but I'd still prioritize the iOS side.

Additional counterpoint, I launched my app on both Android and iOS at the same time, didn't even own an iPhone when I released it.

The with tooling available today, there is almost no technical reason not to. Most brands/apps can't afford to create some fake exclusivity.

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by satvikpendem »

mcsniff wrote: post #101
satvikpendem wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone (who wants to make money from their app)? I own an Android and I'd still launch an iOS app first because the vast majority of mobile revenue comes from iOS, not Android. At the very most I'd use Flutter to launch on both platforms at once but I'd still prioritize the iOS side.

Additional counterpoint, I launched my app on both Android and iOS at the same time, didn't even own an iPhone when I released it. The with tooling available today, there is almost no technical reason not to. Most brands/apps can't afford to create some fake exclusivity.

If you use a cross platform framework, sure, but if you only have resources for one platform (or where cross platform is not suitable for whatever reason), I'd pick launching on iOS first any day of the week.

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by urbandw311er »

skinkestek wrote: post #51
boeingUH60 wrote: post #28

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Wait till you hear about Jan Koum, who took over $10 billion from selling WhatsApp to Facebook and has become a prominent collector of mansions, superyachts, and rare Porsches [3]. 1- https://www.dirt.com/gallery/moguls/tech/jan-koum-house-beve... 2- https://www.superyachtfan.com/yacht/moonrise/owner/ 3- https://www.thedrive.com/news/26322/these-are-the-10-drool-w...

He has to live the rest of his life as someone who sold of millions of enthusiastic users to exactly the company we paid them not to become. Well. I guess he is happy with it. What's worse is I guess most people would take that deal at some point.

What do you mean by “paid them”? I thought WhatsApp was a free service.

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by dimgl »

sdf4j wrote: post #104

I still resent them for forcing the project management app called Clubhouse to get a rebrand [0]. Well, maybe not forced them, but a result of the dynamics during the zero interest rate era. [0] https://www.shortcut.com/blog/clubhouses-name-is-now-shortcu...

Yeah I was going to comment on this. It's an unfortunate situation because I'll forever know the product as Clubhouse, but now they changed their name.

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by nerdbert »

nikanj wrote: post #65
UncleOxidant wrote: post #61

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Seems like it was really popular for about 3 months. And then it was just annoying.

It was very briefly billed to be the FB killer.

Which was always an amazing take, since Facebook works by giving you a few minutes to catch up on friends/groups while you're sitting on the toilet or waiting for a bus. It doesn't require you to be in a quiet place and more or less concentrating for an hour in order to get anything out of it.

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by nerdbert »

ericzawo wrote: post #21

There was a period in late 2020 where I was convinced Clubhouse would leapfrog Twitter as the place where valuable industry-facing conversation and information would be housed.

It's audio. That means it's very slow to consume and requires much of your attention. That is never going to get the same sort of usage numbers as something you can flit in and out of like Twitter or Instagram.

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by dilyevsky »

nkotov wrote: post #31

I liked the way this was written. No BS, just straight up, "We need to reset". It's refreshing to hear. I stopped using Clubhouse after being an early user for a couple of months. Some conversations were good, but most weren't quality conversations and over time I stopped paying attention to the app. I think the final blow was Twitter spaces which I don't pay attention to either.

The crypto/nft bros and wannabe influencers killed it for me. It’s sort of tolerable when you can scroll away this crap in half a second not so much when you’re forced to listen to them interject a conversation with their nonsense

Re: Founders’ Email to Clubhouse Employees

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Post by skinkestek »

urbandw311er wrote: post #103
skinkestek wrote: post #51

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He has to live the rest of his life as someone who sold of millions of enthusiastic users to exactly the company we paid them not to become. Well. I guess he is happy with it. What's worse is I guess most people would take that deal at some point.

What do you mean by “paid them”? I thought WhatsApp was a free service.

Whatsapps whole schtick from the beginning was something "you pay us $1 pr year and we provide you a top tier messaging service without ads and without analyzing you data or your social graph or anything".

I was enthusiastic about it, and possibly even more enthusiastic about it as I finally got my first invoice (yes, they didn't start billing right away, but they were very open about their plans, unlike Telegram who always just said something like "it isn't that expensive anyway, someone is shouldering it and we have a plan").

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