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The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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It’s the nature of how computers make copying an initial work nearly zero additional cost. This has never been the case in human history prior to digital/analog recording of content, and it keeps getting closer and closer to zero cost to duplicate. This breaks people’s moral framework because they now have to grasp things like game theory to understand second and third order harm.

This comments relies on a faulty assumption that other people share the same moral framework as the commenter. Unfortunately, people commenting like this don't tend to realize how much of their own moral framework is simply an ill-fitting hand-me-down from previous generations.

The moral framework we have inherited from the past was in contrast to the ‘might makes right’ ‘crush the weak’ and ‘take what you want if you can’ moral framework of the Greek/Roman era.

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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I own Netflix although I mostly use stremio with torrentino. Seems like statistics got it right.

Uh, you don’t own Netflix (unless you’re a shareholder). You’re a subscriber.

Luckily I'm also a shareholder.

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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This comments relies on a faulty assumption that other people share the same moral framework as the commenter. Unfortunately, people commenting like this don't tend to realize how much of their own moral framework is simply an ill-fitting hand-me-down from previous generations.

The moral framework we have inherited from the past was in contrast to the ‘might makes right’ ‘crush the weak’ and ‘take what you want if you can’ moral framework of the Greek/Roman era.

That's certainly an opinion. It's an opinion that is ignorant of almost all history, but it's definitely an opinion.

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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So? There are plenty of written works from before copyright. There would be more if we had been better about preservation. People will still write without copyright. Maybe the quality will even go up as there are fewer incentives for quantity over quality. If your argument for copyright relies on protecting speicific jobs then you have no argument. Jobs become obsolete all the time. If you want welfare then argue for…

> People will still write without copyright Yes. Way less of them do cause very few people could afford to write. > Maybe the quality will even go up as there are fewer incentives for quantity over quality Maybe people who write/etc. time on average produce better quality than those who can only dedicate a few hours per day for it. Also you want to eradicate entire creative industries like cinema and television for n…

Then let's agree to limit it to 10 years. That's a tolerable amount of time. More than enough for these corporations to turn a profit many times over.

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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> Would you be pleased if that applied to all of your work too? That immediately anyone can start taking your work and making money off of it? Sure. From now on I either release my software as AGPLv3 or I don't release it at all. Truth is even if someone violates my license I'm not gonna waste my limited time on this earth litigating against them in court over it. I have better things to do. Stallman would disagree b…

> Netflix literally exists to solve the problems created by copyright itself You do realize that barely any of that content they provide would even exist without copyright. There would be two outcomes either movies only get released in cinemas and the original copy is for projection is heavily guarded with not official "home video" releases at all or no movies with a significant budget ever get released. > Everything…

You're telling me these creators can't find a way to continue working without copyright? Come on. Even big companies use stuff like kickstarter and patreon to raise funds. They'll be fine.

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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Even 10 years is too generous. I'd rather make it 0 instead. I said 10 years because it's what would make copyright tolerable . The right thing as far as I'm concerned is abolishing it straight up. 10 years is a reasonable compromise. Remember, copyright exists at all because we allow it. The raw reality these monopolists face is that public domain is the default state of all information. We're all just pretending th…

> Even 10 years is too generous. I'd rather make it 0 instead. I said 10 years because it's what would make copyright tolerable. The right thing as far as I'm concerned is abolishing it straight up. 10 years is a reasonable compromise. That's not a reasonable compromise. Your proposal of 0 years in a nonstarter, and walking slightly back from that is still a nonstarter. It's pretty clear your prioritizing only your o…

What are the "good reasons" you speak of? It seems like the primary purpose of copyright is to help enrich individuals or corporations (and only the ones who have the resources to fight legal battles). Most people on the Internet completely ignore copyright in their everyday life. And most of the time, nobody really cares, not even the owners of the copyright.

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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Please stop spamming these websites with fake content.

Hum... The morality here is certainly not simple.

OP could've told his anecdote without linking to his website

Re: The EU suppressed a 300-page study that found piracy doesn’t harm sales (2017)

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But most of that happens already? That's how record labels and publishers do business. You are already living in that dark an intellectually subdued world. A few examples I remember: https://www.pcgamer.com/the-legal-war-over-disco-elysium-rea... https://kotaku.com/witcher-author-threatens-cd-projekt-red-w... https://www.dualshockers.com/nintendo-copyright-strikes-laws... Copyright is not in place to protect the auth…

> Copyright is not in place to protect the authors, but to protect the corporations that own the rights. The system is not perfect, obviously. There are problems that need to be addressed. But I refuse to view the world in black and white terms Copyright does protect the author or at least most authors to varying degrees. Just go around and ask any author whether they'd prefer the entire concept of copyright to be ab…

> I refuse to view the world in black and white terms

But you are "certain" copyright is good, and removing it would be terrible. That's awfully close to painting things in black and white.

> Just go around and ask any author

I put all my work under open source licenses and creative commons. If copyright disappeared I would just continue to do so. Corporations would be screwed, but art can go on without them.

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