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The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by aklofas »

beatle wrote: post #113
mrleinad wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"He characterized Mr Jobs as a deceptive individual who is not completely forthright and honest. He stated that Mr. Jobs will twist the truth and distort reality in order to achieve his goals." Yep. Looks like he's the man for the position.

Apple would've gone bankrupt if Jobs took the position. Instead this happened. Apple now worth more than Google and Microsoft combined http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3572487

Who knows, man. He could have solved world peace, cured aids and cancer, gone back in time and killed Hitler. Instead, this happened. I guess we'll never know...

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by joshu »

Erwin wrote: post #105
troymc wrote: post #80

"He belonged to no organizations other than the New York Athletic Club however he had never been in the New York Athletic Club and knew nothing with regard to their membership policies." Why was he a member of the New York Athletic Club? Did someone give him a membership as a gift? (At the time, he did own an apartment at 146 Central Park West in New York City. [Edit: I didn't know that either. It was stated in the p…

The building he had a flat in is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_San_Remo -- a rather exclusive place even as NYC goes and he eventually sold it to U2's Bono for $15 million. Maybe being allowed to buy a flat in there and membership of the club are somehow connected (the club seems to be an exclusive, expensive invite-only gentlemens' club)

That seems likely.

I walked past that place a million times (used to live on 60th and Columbus, worked at 9 w 57th street.) Always wondered what it was.

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by neurotech1 »

unreal37 wrote: post #85
joshaidan wrote: post #50

My favourite snippet: "Several individuals questioned Mr. Jobs' honesty stating that Mr. Jobs will twist and distort reality in order to achieve his goals."

So far my favorite: "He added that the Appointee lives within his means financially, however, his means are considerable and the Appointee is worth at least 100 million dollars." It's easy to live within your means if you're worth 100 million dollars I guess. Unless you are Elton John or Nicolas Cage.

Several double-agents & spies were caught by living beyond their means, such as buying yachts etc. It was pretty obvious they had a second source of income, presumably from illicit activity.

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by sukuriant »

tikhonj wrote: post #112
adestefan wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same goes for being a lawyer and doctor. They look so cool on TV and then you see someone doing the "real" job and notice how much is must suck.

And programming (at least for some of us :p) is exactly the opposite--it's usually portrayed as dry and relatively boring, like clerk work, but in reality is actually pretty awesome.

Not to an outsider: Oh look... he's typing away at things for hours on end.

Our results may be cool, but the process certainly isn't; at least as far as other 'building' jobs look.

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by daniel-cussen »

mrleinad wrote: post #72
johngalt wrote: post #4

From the background check interviews: " concluded the interview by stating that even though he does not consider Mr. Jobs to be a friend, he (Mr. Jobs) possesses the qualities to assume a high level political position. It was 's opinion that honesty and integrity are not required qualities to hold such a position."

"He characterized Mr Jobs as a deceptive individual who is not completely forthright and honest. He stated that Mr. Jobs will twist the truth and distort reality in order to achieve his goals." Yep. Looks like he's the man for the position.

"...distort reality..."

A lot of people said that about him: it was his famous reality distortion field.

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by niels_olson »

culturestate wrote: post #15

The most interesting thing in these documents is among the last few pages which appear to be fingerprints (presumably SJ's) lifted from a telephone receiver at SFO. I wonder why? Can't just ask the guy for his prints? EDIT: it appears from further reading that they're related to a bomb threat involving him at SFO. They're labeled as "misc notes on extortion at Apple."

It was almost certainly the caller. Unsub would be an unsubstantiated caller. If I had to guess, I'd go with Burrell Smith.

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by bluetidepro »

lizzard wrote: post #55
bluetidepro wrote: post #47

This may be a dumb question but can you request this information on anyone? Like can I request my own info? I imagine it's blank but I'm just curious how that works...

Yes, here's the FOIA FAQ for the U.S. government: http://www.foia.gov/faq.html . You need a notarized statement of your identity.

Ah, interesting! Thanks for the link.

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by mjwalshe »

quux wrote: post #60
fiatpandas wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This one's interesting. Why would he need top secret clearance during that period at Pixar?

I think at this point they were selling their image processing systems to intelligence agencies like the CIA and NSA. IIRC, the NSA bought a lot of NeXT systems, and he had to get a clearance for that too. Or maybe this was the same clearance.

yep Pixar must have been on the USAs equivalent of List X

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by mjwalshe »

siglesias wrote: post #97
johngalt wrote: post #4

From the background check interviews: " concluded the interview by stating that even though he does not consider Mr. Jobs to be a friend, he (Mr. Jobs) possesses the qualities to assume a high level political position. It was 's opinion that honesty and integrity are not required qualities to hold such a position."

"[Jobs] would have made an excellent King of France." --Jef Raskin [1] Betting it's him. http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&s...

Louis XIV or XVI :-) Would that make Larry elision cardinal richelieu then

Re: The FBI's files on Steve Jobs

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Post by beatle »

specialk16 wrote: post #119
beatle wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple would've gone bankrupt if Jobs took the position. Instead this happened. Apple now worth more than Google and Microsoft combined http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3572487

Wow, so relevant.... /s

I guess nothing's more relevant than the FBI files on Steve Jobs ;)
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