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German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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Re: German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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Tell me you don't drink beer without telling me you don't drink beer.

To misunderstand this word, OP probably speaks German, which means statistically they probably drink more beer than you.

Doesn't help that "Lager" is not used as much for beer in Germany, at least in the regions I know.

Such beer is instead often classified as "Untergärig", from "untergärige Hefe" => "bottom-fermenting yeast"

Re: German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To misunderstand this word, OP probably speaks German, which means statistically they probably drink more beer than you.

Doesn't help that "Lager" is not used as much for beer in Germany, at least in the regions I know. Such beer is instead often classified as "Untergärig", from "untergärige Hefe" => "bottom-fermenting yeast"

Nobody I know orders their beer "ein Untergärig bitte" (Switzerland here). Although not THE name, still everybody knows what a Lager is (as in, whether they want a helles or dunkles). Yes of course there's the camp meaning as well, but you wouldn't mix that up in a Kneipe. Only when you read just a random internet article and you have zero context to know which is which - even though this phrasing would be really weird if it referred to a camp (for me, non-native English speaker).

Re: German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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What is the prison meaning?

The semantic space that "lager" covers in German is around storage/collection: so it covers concepts that in English are distinguished by worlds like "camp" (storage of people; and is therefore applied to prison camps) and "warehouse". Lager beer is matured in cold storage (like a cellar), hence "Lagerbier" just means "beer kept in storage", roughly. Because of differing semantic coverage, a lot of words between Germ…

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Re: German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't help that "Lager" is not used as much for beer in Germany, at least in the regions I know. Such beer is instead often classified as "Untergärig", from "untergärige Hefe" => "bottom-fermenting yeast"

Nobody I know orders their beer "ein Untergärig bitte" (Switzerland here). Although not THE name, still everybody knows what a Lager is (as in, whether they want a helles or dunkles). Yes of course there's the camp meaning as well, but you wouldn't mix that up in a Kneipe. Only when you read just a random internet article and you have zero context to know which is which - even though this phrasing would be really wei…

Yeah, Lager inside a Kneipe / Wirtshaus is obviously meant in the "category of beer" way. At least here in Bavaria, it would just be "ein Helles" (or "ein Dunkles"). :D

Regional differences between Bavaria and Switzerland may show here. As an example of "Untergärig" used instead of Lager: https://www.giesinger-shop.de/zum-trinken/9-giesinger-erhell...

Re: German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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Ah ok, that kind of lager!

Tell me you don't drink beer without telling me you don't drink beer.

Nobody here calls it "Lager", u less it actually is one. We have Helles, Dunkles, Weissbier, dunkles Weisbier, Kellerbier, Pils, Lagerbier... If you order a Lager in Bavaria I honestly have no idea what you would get. Most likely still a beer, I have to try it next time, weather is nice enough for a first trip to a beer garden anyway!

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody I know orders their beer "ein Untergärig bitte" (Switzerland here). Although not THE name, still everybody knows what a Lager is (as in, whether they want a helles or dunkles). Yes of course there's the camp meaning as well, but you wouldn't mix that up in a Kneipe. Only when you read just a random internet article and you have zero context to know which is which - even though this phrasing would be really wei…

Yeah, Lager inside a Kneipe / Wirtshaus is obviously meant in the "category of beer" way. At least here in Bavaria, it would just be "ein Helles" (or "ein Dunkles"). :D Regional differences between Bavaria and Switzerland may show here. As an example of "Untergärig" used instead of Lager: https://www.giesinger-shop.de/zum-trinken/9-giesinger-erhell...

And in Austria, a Märzen.

Re: German researchers figure out how lager first developed in Bavaria

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As much as I like Czech beer (especially from 'tanks' - 400-1000 liter barrels that use gravity to get beer out and not CO2 like smaller kegs, which translates into much smoother and less sour taste), bavarian, namely Munich's Augustiner Edelstoff is by far the best lager from bottle I ever tasted. It easily beats any 'craft' beers I've experienced around the globe, and 0.5 lter bottle costs 1.2 euro in Munich's supe…

Edelstoff is good! And hey, every occassion to make stronger, seasonal beer is welcome: Oktoberfest, Starkbier, Easter, Christmas...
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