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Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Why?

Because if you have a website you are legally liable for what someone else posts if you don't remove it within 24 hours of a report, which makes running a social network impractical. (NetzDG, KoPl-G, Digital Services Act (DSA), etc) Having actual free speech would solve that (and a lot of other problems).

What do you consider to be actual free speech?

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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post #12
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

Because if you have a website you are legally liable for what someone else posts if you don't remove it within 24 hours of a report, which makes running a social network impractical. (NetzDG, KoPl-G, Digital Services Act (DSA), etc) Having actual free speech would solve that (and a lot of other problems).

Is that solved for American websites?

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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I’ve been to restaurants owned by communists and the food was great. You’re just repeating cliches IMO

Because they operated on the free market around them, forcing them to have good quality or they wouldn't get paid. I lived in communism where the state owned practically everything - and everything, not just the food, was shit, and you couldn't get it anyways, we didn't even have toilet paper. Don't get me started on women's hygienic accessories. The recommendation from government was to use old newspaper - because p…

Sure. And what OP is proposing here is communism ?

Do you believe your life experience allows you to predict the future?

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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this already exists. problem is they're not popular

Right? Isn't this just... a forum? PHPBB is still kickin' baby; probably has a one-click deployment, somewhere out there, too. What's stopping y'all, Article OP?

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Because they operated on the free market around them, forcing them to have good quality or they wouldn't get paid. I lived in communism where the state owned practically everything - and everything, not just the food, was shit, and you couldn't get it anyways, we didn't even have toilet paper. Don't get me started on women's hygienic accessories. The recommendation from government was to use old newspaper - because p…

Sure. And what OP is proposing here is communism ? Do you believe your life experience allows you to predict the future?

Idk, you seemed to be claiming that communism works, I'm telling you it doesn't and that your example is true only because of the free market around these communist-owned restaurants. That's it.

Edit because I can't reply: because I hate it when people say that communism works even though they never lived through it and have no idea what it actually is to live in it. It's terrible, an entire country of multiple millions of humans is condemned to horrible life. Don't do it, there is enough examples of how bad it is already.

We're talking about experiences of hundreds of millions of people (most of whom don't speak English and don't frequent US forums but they still exist). Yes, their experience can predict the future. Communism always and very quickly failed and then became (or simply started as) oligarchist dictatorship.

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Europe doesn’t have free speech because -

Because you can go to prison for saying things.

Conveniently, this account was literally just registered to make this comment.

I’m increasingly convinced that LLMs are being used to spread propaganda

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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I’ve been to restaurants owned by communists and the food was great. You’re just repeating cliches IMO

Because they operated on the free market around them, forcing them to have good quality or they wouldn't get paid. I lived in communism where the state owned practically everything - and everything, not just the food, was shit, and you couldn't get it anyways, we didn't even have toilet paper. Don't get me started on women's hygienic accessories. The recommendation from government was to use old newspaper - because p…

> The recommendation from government was to use old newspaper

Ahhh, that takes me back. I was only there until the age of 8 or so, but I vividly remember our stack of newspaper squares. And, of course, you can't flush them so you have to put them in a bin (and presumably empty the bin, but I wasn't there for that part). Also we only had running water part of the day so we had to store some up in buckets for peak times. It seemed normal at the time, but looking back it's fucking crazy.

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Yes it is weird that europe has public television, public education etc, but we don't have a public Mastodon. Even if it s not very popular, it is a necessity.

An additional benefit of publicly-ran communications is that they can't be censored unless it s something unlawful.

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