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Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Europe doesn’t have free speech because -

I am inexplicably reminded of the following great quote:

> As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Why?

Because if you have a website you are legally liable for what someone else posts if you don't remove it within 24 hours of a report, which makes running a social network impractical. (NetzDG, KoPl-G, Digital Services Act (DSA), etc)

Having actual free speech would solve that (and a lot of other problems).

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Why?

Because if you have a website you are legally liable for what someone else posts if you don't remove it within 24 hours of a report, which makes running a social network impractical. (NetzDG, KoPl-G, Digital Services Act (DSA), etc) Having actual free speech would solve that (and a lot of other problems).

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Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Europe doesn’t have free speech because -

I am inexplicably reminded of the following great quote: > As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.

What game? Also, NA meaning North America? Why would Mexico and Canada be lumped into it, they don't have the same constitutional protections that USA gets.

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Europe doesn’t have free speech because -

I am inexplicably reminded of the following great quote: > As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free.

What's the game that quote refers to?

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Europe doesn’t have free speech because -

Because you can go to prison for saying things.

You can in US as well, even the 1st amendment only protects you so far. We just disagree with where that line lies.

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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If the gov't will be in charge of it then it will be shit as all government services are in general. If there is no profit in it for someone the platform won't improve. It's the classic "the capitalist owns a restaurant vs the people own a restaurant, but which has better food".

Spare me. Private medicine is a disaster, private utilities are disasters where they are tried, private roads are a disaster.

Governments screw a lot of things up. So do private companies. Arguing about which is better in the abstract is like arguing whether even or odd numbers are “better”: only possible for tribalists.

Re: Europe Needs Digital Public Spaces That Are Independently Moderated and Hosted

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Europe doesn’t have free speech because -

In most EU countries, you can’t publicly insult the country politicians.

That's absolutely not true, definitely not in the criminal sense. Politicians are always allowed to bring a civil suit against you over the things you've said, but the same is true in US.
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