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Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#121
post #39

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Or use an open source client without telemetry such as https://maestral.app ㋡

Eh. Just set up syncthing. Came back to it about a year ago, and it's worked flawlessly across 5+ devices with ~8 synced folders ever since.

I use that to sync savestates between RetroArch on mobile, desktop and laptop. no need to worry and I can resume my games wherever I am.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#122
post #34

I switched away from Dropbox to Syncthing https://syncthing.net/ a few years ago. Running it on Windows, Mac and Linux (I don't use it on mobile) to keep all manner of files in sync across a bunch of machines. While it doesn't have all the shell integration and end-user friendliness of Dropbox, it also doesn't have the pitfalls like (non-optional) telemetry and constant up-sell.

I use Dropbox for transfers between Linux and iOS, so syncthing doesn’t help. Is there something similar that supports iOS?

The Tailscale cli has a file transfer function that works well between linux and iOS.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#123

Stopped using Dropbox a long time ago. Their constant "marketing" emails were bordering on scammy "Your dropbox is almost full!" etc - I try not to deal with companies that play these games.

The other day I noticed that the Dropbox icon had a red notification dot. Uh oh, maybe I'm running out of space.

Nope, it was an ad for using Dropbox to scan my tax documents or some shit like that.

I contacted support to ask about disabling future fake notifications, and they tried to claim that malware could be responsible.

I suppose in a way, they're not wrong...

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#125

Many times on HN, commenters have mocked those who questioned why someone would use Dropbox instead of a method controlled by the user. I guess becausse someone made lots of money from it or it became popular or something. I always found this perplexing because I look at solutions from the perspective of the user, namely, me, not from the perspective of a third party "tech" startup founder. It's insensitive to the pe…

>Maybe there will someday be telemetry in USB sticks. We'll see. Meanwhile...

I have had experiences where putting in a USB stick automatically installs malware on the computer.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#126
post #8

Do people still use Dropbox? I feel like I almost never hear recommendations for it. I personally abandoned Dropbox when they introduced a limit on the amount of devices you could use for free plans, and the cheapest plan was like 120€/year for 2 TB.

> Do people still use Dropbox? Yep but it's mostly because I have many things which integrate with it -- loads of IFTTT recipes, apps, and sites that automatically sync things for you. If iCloud had a public API that people could integrate with the same way, I'd probably drop Dropbox at some point.

I only use Dropbox because Brother Webconnect does not support iCloud Drive.

https://www.brother-usa.com/brother-web-connect

Very convenient that Brother MFC machines can automatically upload OCR’d scans to your Dropbox/onedrive/box/google drive account, but I would like to only use iCloud Drive. Wonder if Apple is dropping the ball on that functionality though.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#127
post #34

I switched away from Dropbox to Syncthing https://syncthing.net/ a few years ago. Running it on Windows, Mac and Linux (I don't use it on mobile) to keep all manner of files in sync across a bunch of machines. While it doesn't have all the shell integration and end-user friendliness of Dropbox, it also doesn't have the pitfalls like (non-optional) telemetry and constant up-sell.

Syncthing saved my ass last month. My Framework laptop got stolen while I was traveling. I was able to pick up a second-hand MacBook Air, connect it to my introducer, and within a few hours I had all my files back. I have a Pi with software RAID and two HDDs running Syncthing in my apartment. I rent a cheap Storage VPS from time4vps.com which is untrusted and set as an introducer--meaning, the data is encrypted befor…

nice setup, do you maintain the project too often? Does it go obsolete due to any update? Or is that just ssh and scp?

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#128
post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see a trend of software engineers that don't see users as someone who they are providing service to - they see them as just one element of a machine they're optimizing to make their software better. They feel that the engineering quest itself is the most important thing in the world, so they feel entitled to any and all data they are technically capable of collecting. It's a shame. I wish more engineers would see t…

If you asked me which part of the company decided to shove telemetry in the product, my last guess would be the software engineers.

I'm not sure.

There was an opt-out telemetry proposal in Go [0], which caused a huge backlash. The proposal authors were so focused on the benefits of the telemetry, that they did their best to invent all kinds of very convincing arguments why their telemetry is okay, useful, not intrusive, etc. etc. They completely ignored the ethics of the problem - that they are not entitled to users' data without consent.

It took a very dramatic reaction from the community to convince them that adding opt-out telemetry without users' explicit consent is a bad idea, no matter how "non-intrusive" and "helpful" it is.

[0] https://github.com/golang/go/discussions/58409

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#129
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh they increased to 2TB? (Seems it was around 2019... wow I am not up to date! https://venturebeat.com/business/dropbox-increases-plus-plan... ) Back when I decided which cloud storage to use, all the big ones were at 1TB and dorpbox was the most expensive with the least features, while microsofts offer included office 365 for nearly half the price. Right now it seems: MS 6$/mo for 1TB + Office ( https://www.microso…

The main advantage for Dropbox is that file sync works flawlessly. I've had issues with Onedrive and Google Drive in the past. Maybe they fixed those, but I can't trust them anymore.

In my experience syncing with pCloud is at least as good as with Dropbox. Google Drive is still quite bad.

Re: Dropbox telemetry can't be disabled

#130
post #34

I switched away from Dropbox to Syncthing https://syncthing.net/ a few years ago. Running it on Windows, Mac and Linux (I don't use it on mobile) to keep all manner of files in sync across a bunch of machines. While it doesn't have all the shell integration and end-user friendliness of Dropbox, it also doesn't have the pitfalls like (non-optional) telemetry and constant up-sell.

Syncthing is so much better than Dropbox. There are no accounts, so it's much easier to set up syncing between multiple machines that may not belong to the same user, or to shared devices. I use it to sync family documents, work documents, for syncing Factorio save games, ... I've also never had problems with CPU usage (Dropbox often caused high CPU usage in some cases) The only downside is that background sync on iO…

> much easier to set up syncing between multiple machines that may not belong to the same user

I always thought this as one of the bigger value-adds of Dropbox; easy cross user management and sharing.

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