When I was studying German twenty or so years ago I got good results from reading lots and lots of children's books, starting with the really basic stuff--like books meant for kindergarteners--and working my way up to books by Erich Kästner. By grading the material in this way you can read a lot without getting tripped up by unfamiliar words every sentence.
I've got a book called Mein Erstes Buch ("My First Book"—apologies if I screwed up the spelling, I don't have it with me at the moment to check) that starts at "see spot run" difficulty ("Ball. Red ball. Red ball and Tom. Tom bounces the red ball."—stuff like that) and, through pictures and words, by the end, has you reading at maybe a 4th grade level (whole pages of text, only occasional images). I haven't gone thro…
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#112Native German speaker here. My partner is a native English speaker and I was about to recommend this to her. However, it looks like a lot of this is auto generated/translated, making it sound unnatural or sometimes just wrong. For example: I looked at this example story [1] and the practice question is slightly bad grammar. It should be "Wer ging im Wald spazieren?", not "Wer ging spazieren im Wald?". Or: "Sie lachte…
Seems silly to translate short stories into German, rather than just using German short stories. Even if translation got incredibly good, the "real" German stories would have the extra benefit of teaching you about the culture. On that note, do you have a recommendation for a collection of actual German short stories?
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#114When I was studying German twenty or so years ago I got good results from reading lots and lots of children's books, starting with the really basic stuff--like books meant for kindergarteners--and working my way up to books by Erich Kästner. By grading the material in this way you can read a lot without getting tripped up by unfamiliar words every sentence.
I've got a book called Mein Erstes Buch ("My First Book"—apologies if I screwed up the spelling, I don't have it with me at the moment to check) that starts at "see spot run" difficulty ("Ball. Red ball. Red ball and Tom. Tom bounces the red ball."—stuff like that) and, through pictures and words, by the end, has you reading at maybe a 4th grade level (whole pages of text, only occasional images). I haven't gone thro…
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#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems silly to translate short stories into German, rather than just using German short stories. Even if translation got incredibly good, the "real" German stories would have the extra benefit of teaching you about the culture. On that note, do you have a recommendation for a collection of actual German short stories?
Kafka has some collections of short stories that are great. Some are no more than a page long but impactful, so they satisfying to stumble through with bad German skills.
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#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wasn't aware of LingQ, thanks for sharing it. Perhaps you are right about the targeting. Casual learners... but also busy people that would benefit from the format. We'll see.
"but also busy people that would benefit from the format" IMO busy people need tools that give the most learning per time spent, not tools that feel easy at the expense of pace of learning. These tools tend to require effort (e.g. LingQ, Readlang, Language Transfer) rather than ones that feel easy (e.g. Duolingo).
Extensive reading would fall in this quadrant. Trouble is that below a certain level you need lots and lots of graded readers. A somewhat improved version of OP’s project may solve that problem, providing an unlimited firehose of reading at an appropriate level.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've got a book called Mein Erstes Buch ("My First Book"—apologies if I screwed up the spelling, I don't have it with me at the moment to check) that starts at "see spot run" difficulty ("Ball. Red ball. Red ball and Tom. Tom bounces the red ball."—stuff like that) and, through pictures and words, by the end, has you reading at maybe a 4th grade level (whole pages of text, only occasional images). I haven't gone thro…
There are several children books with that name. Was it maybe this one: https://archive.org/details/meinerstesbuch0000unse/page/4/mo... ?
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#118Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've got a book called Mein Erstes Buch ("My First Book"—apologies if I screwed up the spelling, I don't have it with me at the moment to check) that starts at "see spot run" difficulty ("Ball. Red ball. Red ball and Tom. Tom bounces the red ball."—stuff like that) and, through pictures and words, by the end, has you reading at maybe a 4th grade level (whole pages of text, only occasional images). I haven't gone thro…
Would you be able to identify that book please? I would buy it, but cant tell which one it is from google search.
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#119Native German speaker here. My partner is a native English speaker and I was about to recommend this to her. However, it looks like a lot of this is auto generated/translated, making it sound unnatural or sometimes just wrong. For example: I looked at this example story [1] and the practice question is slightly bad grammar. It should be "Wer ging im Wald spazieren?", not "Wer ging spazieren im Wald?". Or: "Sie lachte…
My German-speaking friends can always tell when I get lazy and run a text message through DeepL instead of writing it myself in German. Please, don't ever think machine translation is a good basis for a language-learning app!
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#120It‘s cute. Make sure to get some feedback from native German speakers to iron out they little mistakes or unusual word order. Also, never capitalize every first letter in a headline. Either capitalize every letter or use correct rules for which words are capitalized.