Thus achieving the dream of all telcos: Charging people without delivering any service whatsoever!
Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
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Re: Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
#32Re: Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
#33"Private operator wants to use other people's wifis to offer service in Tokyo" seems to be a more accurate description.
Btw does Japan have multiple cell phone providers or is this NTT a monopoly?
Also, blockchain? This is not the current hype, it should have been AI powered!
Re: Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
#34I live in a high-density multi-family apartment block. 300 families in a small space. There are probably at least 300 SSIDs being broadcast in this area, plus Bluetooth and other noise. This is a low-income joint, so amenities are comparatively minimal, but there's just no excuse for not forging a deal with one of the local ISPs and having their WiFi/Ethernet to blanket the property, convincing residents to shut thei…
But I do understand what you mean. I guess one thing to do is to set the router to not broadcast at full power, and use 5GHz to limit the range.
Re: Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tokyo has five million Wi-Fi access points – and that's 20 times what the city needs, because they’re reserved for private use Unsure if you were trying to make a point to debate the article; but it appears they're specifically speaking of private networks, not public.
They don't exist in a vacuum, they all pollute the channels with noise. Public ones indubitably perform worse due to all the private ones.
Given how saturated the spectrum is, its remarkable how reliable wifi has become. I get occasional dropouts (maybe once or twice a day for a few seconds) but otherwise my connection is rock solid. And this is all over 802.11ac - which is super old at this point.
Re: Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
#36The shortened title is misleading. "Private operator wants to use other people's wifis to offer service in Tokyo" seems to be a more accurate description. Btw does Japan have multiple cell phone providers or is this NTT a monopoly? Also, blockchain? This is not the current hype, it should have been AI powered!
Softbank and KDDI are the biggest competitors afaik, with NTT holding about 50% market share. Big, but not monopoly tier.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't exist in a vacuum, they all pollute the channels with noise. Public ones indubitably perform worse due to all the private ones.
Its the same in all big cities. From my kitchen I can see 23 other access points in the list. I'm sure we could pool our internet & wifi if we could coordinate, but coordination is too hard. Given how saturated the spectrum is, its remarkable how reliable wifi has become. I get occasional dropouts (maybe once or twice a day for a few seconds) but otherwise my connection is rock solid. And this is all over 802.11ac -…
Most consumers never upgrade their router, and even if it fails, telcos often send them old and outdated replacements. There's a lot of networks around that are still stuck on older technologies.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Why does this need a blockchain? Fon/BT has been sharing residential WiFi for years without blockchain The difference is, as per the article, that the Japanese operator wants to re-imburse the WiFi hotspot subscriber. Something which is very much alien to BT's way of thinking. Of course, whether blockchain is the right way do implement that aspect is a different question, and in terms of implementation I would agre…
I really thought we all got off the blockchain bandwagon.
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I don't know how it works on iPhone, but on Android you can easily get a new mac address and get additional 20 minutes. Settings > Developer Options > Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomization. Then just forget the network and reconnect.
iOS has “Private Wi-Fi Address” which I think is the same thing
> Starting with iOS 14, iPadOS 14, and watchOS 7, your device improves privacy by using a different MAC address for each Wi-Fi network. This unique MAC address is your device's private Wi-Fi address, which it uses for that network only.
Re: Tokyo has 20 times as much WiFi as it needs
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
They don't exist in a vacuum, they all pollute the channels with noise. Public ones indubitably perform worse due to all the private ones.
Its the same in all big cities. From my kitchen I can see 23 other access points in the list. I'm sure we could pool our internet & wifi if we could coordinate, but coordination is too hard. Given how saturated the spectrum is, its remarkable how reliable wifi has become. I get occasional dropouts (maybe once or twice a day for a few seconds) but otherwise my connection is rock solid. And this is all over 802.11ac -…