Why would anyone use "downloaden" when there already is "herunterladen" is beyond me.
The worst thing is someone trying to put it in past tense: For "herunterladen" it's easy: "herunter-ge-laden". For "download", the obvious choice is "downloaded", but instead some people prefer the weird hodge-podge of "down-ge-loaded"
On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch
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#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
Come to Holland! It's basically Belgium with better frontyards and nicer cops.
> nicer cops Until you actually need them. They'll do everything they can to get out from doing any work. Especially if you are foreign.
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#123Why would anyone use "downloaden" when there already is "herunterladen" is beyond me.
The worst thing is someone trying to put it in past tense: For "herunterladen" it's easy: "herunter-ge-laden". For "download", the obvious choice is "downloaded", but instead some people prefer the weird hodge-podge of "down-ge-loaded"
You are using an English word in a German sentence, while they are (almost correctly, downgeloadet) applying the rules for words lended from foreign languages. So unless you are doing it for some particular effect, their sentence sounds funny, but is grammatically correct, yours only shows, that you know how to correctly speak English.
Best examples of the same thing are the plurals of nouns ending in y: In a German sentence, the correct plural of Story (capital S) is actually Storys.
This looks wrong to most Germans, too. So now you basically have to guess, whether you can impress your reader more with your advanced and wrong-looking German grammar knowledge, or whether you should play it safe and not risk to look like your English is rusty.
Another great one are Deppenleerzeichen in English or English-German compounds, which basically no one gets right, even though the rule has no exceptions. Author of the article slipped one of those in, too.
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#124Very nice overview of our Berlin patois. As an Italian living in Berlin, my favorite (which makes my Aussie partner roll her eyes) is saying something like “you are invited” when you pay for someone else’s coffee or meal. It’s a literal translation of “du bist eingeladen”. My partner taught me “I shout you”, but I also have the feeling that’s pretty Aussie or Brit. Any non-native friend understands “I invite you”, bu…
Yeah, as an American, I learned this from reading an Aussie web serial. In the states you'd say...uhh, "my treat" or "I'll cover you" maybe?
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#125Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a new Berliner who immigrated here I can answer some of those: - Berlin has a reputation for its artsy party scene and lax enforcement of drug laws. People come here in their 20s to let themselves loose. - German universities are good quality and free for all (excluding the Semesterpauschale, but for my American or British friends this 300€ is basically nothing in comparison - especially when you count in the publ…
I now what you probably mean when you say "free", that you don't have to pay for it, but in reality, the universities are paid by everyone. Same for health care. I pay 400 euros per month. Of course, then I don't pay much else. But the cost is distributed, they are not "free". Maybe I am sensitive to the word, because in my home country, Argentina, populism has made people believe that everything has to be "free".
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#127> The other day my friend S., an American Berliner, said that he had noticed his English-language social circle starting to use the word « spontaneously » wrong. When Germans say they’ll organise a social event spontan, they mean they’ll work out the details at short notice. To socialise spontaneously, in English, means something rather different. But S. and I and our Neukölln friends have started using it in the sen…
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#128The great strength of English is its uncanny ability to create new words and vacuum up material from other languages... and make it sound good. Other languages are left with the problem of Anglicisms where handy English words and phrases are imported but never sounds like natural parts of the language.
The ultimate champions in "new word creation" are languages which allow the creation of new compound words, though, like e.g. German. That's the way you get those hyper-specific words in "the language has a special word for the concept of " articles most of the time. :P "Neologismuskreierungsmeister" (new word creation champion)
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#129I grew up in a bilingual home. I sometimes refer to what I speak and write as Germish. I routinely have to look up "Is that one word or two?" because German runs words together so much more often than English and I capitalize too many things because German capitalizes all nouns and English only capitalizes proper nouns. A friend of mine once described my capitalization choices as "raising my voice," a place between "…
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#130Why would anyone use "downloaden" when there already is "herunterladen" is beyond me.
The worst thing is someone trying to put it in past tense: For "herunterladen" it's easy: "herunter-ge-laden". For "download", the obvious choice is "downloaded", but instead some people prefer the weird hodge-podge of "down-ge-loaded"
I know because ich habe gegooglet.