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On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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(joke warning) The omnipresent English in Europe is the Mohammad English, a very simplified and useful version - spoken by most middle-eastern emigrant, and some Balkan residents. Next to it is the very distinct (by its accent) French-English.

Not funny. Prejudiced. The trope of "Mohammad in Germany" is sinister and should not be propagated in that realm.

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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I honestly can't be friends with people who use beamer and public viewing in one sentence.

The term „beamer“ is an interesting one. Elder east Germans use the specific GDR term „polylux“ instead to name an projector. Since Berlin was divided not long ago. You will find both terms still circulating.

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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The author would be amused to learn that are dedicated dictionaries specific for "fremdwörter": defining the word, indicating plura and informing gramatical gender so you can have the proper declensions and therefore correct gramatic for these borrowed words.

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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"All the lyrics of the stupidest possible songs" - I feel that one. When a store blares some incredibly vapid English pop lyrics I hardly even notice it, but when they do it in Norwegian, I flee the store to escape the vicarious embarrassment.

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As a native Urberliner I am both flattered and confused by the fact so many young Americans choose to live in my home town. I always wondered what makes it so attractive to you. I mean, winters are miserable, the city is ugly compared to many others in Germany, the people are rather not friendly to each other, the German language is difficult to learn, our history is troublesome, German immigration laws still difficu…

I'm British by birth, I chose Berlin after Brexit because: 1. Friends here 2. Alternative countries were Luxembourg/Switzerland (more expensive); Canada (worse weather); Ireland (fear I might get blamed personally for the stupid done by British politicians, and the UK Gov was being loudly stupid about Ireland at the time); USA (weird culture, guns); Australia/New Zealand (too far from the old country to visit regular…

If you travel to NRW, you will get the special forces police units using those kinds of guns on train stations, specially in days where critical football matches are taking place.

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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post #11

Observation of Berlin from the weekend I spent there last month: literally the only place I was better off speaking German rather than English was a Turkish cafe. Everywhere else? Too many people understood English far better than they did German, especially anywhere to do with tech. Some of the tech people I talked to were running into being otherwise eligible for a permanent residence permit, but not being able to…

A permanent residency (PR) in Berlin does not require German language skills anymore. Maybe this is official or just established practice but regardless, there’a no reason not to have your PR if you qualify otherwise.

Immigration is even more of a local matter than I thought it was! I was used to each town having its own immigration office, and the slightly different levels of service and organization, but thought that the B1 exam or degree from a German-speaking university was a national requirement for a Niederlassungserlaubnis.

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English is widely spoken and understood, even in tech-related environments, and that speaking German may not necessarily be an advantage in all situations.a moderate level of German proficiency is required for obtaining a permanent residence permit in Germany.

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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post #52

The part about feeling a certain tristesse that your native language is a shared commodity rather than a cosy secret was very resonant. And a native English speaker who tries to speak the local language in, I would say, most any sizable European city will typically find that their attempt is politely shut down by their interlocutor in favour of English, because they will speak it vastly better than you speak their la…

This is a very real barrier, it takes some time to build enough confidence to push through and continue in the target language.

I can attest to this. I've lived in German-speaking countries for twenty years and English is still my daily language. Germans just love speaking English, especially since they speak English better than most English-native speakers can operate in German.

I speak German when I'm out and about and nobody knows me, and I don't mind if the frustrated stranger laughs at my weird and obnoxious dialect. Among friends though, they don't have the patience and just plow through the conversation in their excellent English.

It can be very frustrating, but it helps to unleash the German with strangers. You will very definitely see a strata to the folks who will and will not, willingly, put up with your Deunglish...

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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English is widely spoken and understood, even in tech-related environments, and that speaking German may not necessarily be an advantage in all situations. A moderate level of German proficiency is required for obtaining a permanent residence permit in Germany.

Re: On the unexpected joys of Denglisch, Berlinglish and global Englisch

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post #11

Observation of Berlin from the weekend I spent there last month: literally the only place I was better off speaking German rather than English was a Turkish cafe. Everywhere else? Too many people understood English far better than they did German, especially anywhere to do with tech. Some of the tech people I talked to were running into being otherwise eligible for a permanent residence permit, but not being able to…

A permanent residency (PR) in Berlin does not require German language skills anymore. Maybe this is official or just established practice but regardless, there’a no reason not to have your PR if you qualify otherwise.

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