This is off to a great start. I've been studying German through various methods for around 3 years now. Mostly as a mental exercise but also because I love German television. For me, reading has been one of most productive ways to learn.
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#42Native German speaker here. My partner is a native English speaker and I was about to recommend this to her. However, it looks like a lot of this is auto generated/translated, making it sound unnatural or sometimes just wrong. For example: I looked at this example story [1] and the practice question is slightly bad grammar. It should be "Wer ging im Wald spazieren?", not "Wer ging spazieren im Wald?". Or: "Sie lachte…
I think this can be solved through asking the LLM to improve the output itself. I asked GPT-4 to "provide more idiomatic and grammatically correct versions. Consider whether each phrase sounds like German," and got the following output: Wer ging im Wald spazieren? Max war sehr dankbar für Lisas Hilfe und lud sie zum Eisessen ein. Sie gingen zu einer nahegelegenen Eisdiele und verbrachten den restlichen Tag zusammen.…
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#43I taught myself some German by translating Die Bruders Grimm stories word by word, writing between the lines. Combined with other learning sources it seemed to work okay.
“Die Brüder Grimm” ;) A lot of those stories aren’t written in contemporary German and would sound very weird if you used it in your day to day language.
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#44I taught myself some German by translating Die Bruders Grimm stories word by word, writing between the lines. Combined with other learning sources it seemed to work okay.
“Die Brüder Grimm” ;) A lot of those stories aren’t written in contemporary German and would sound very weird if you used it in your day to day language.
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#45This is off to a great start. I've been studying German through various methods for around 3 years now. Mostly as a mental exercise but also because I love German television. For me, reading has been one of most productive ways to learn.
can you recommend any German shows? thanks!!
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#46Translation can be done prior to displaying the story, and make the words appear as hover boxes, and even provide more language context.
The example story is asking me to log in and subscribe to get a full demo. A demonstration in my mind supposed to demonstrate how the system works prior to commitment.
I am unable to provide you free QC/QA because I would have to give you my email.
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#47I taught myself some German by translating Die Bruders Grimm stories word by word, writing between the lines. Combined with other learning sources it seemed to work okay.
“Die Brüder Grimm” ;) A lot of those stories aren’t written in contemporary German and would sound very weird if you used it in your day to day language.
If you did want weird, how about learning German from the lyrics of Bach cantatas? :-)
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Die Brüder Grimm” ;) A lot of those stories aren’t written in contemporary German and would sound very weird if you used it in your day to day language.
so to make it plural, you just change the u to a ü?
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
“Die Brüder Grimm” ;) A lot of those stories aren’t written in contemporary German and would sound very weird if you used it in your day to day language.
so to make it plural, you just change the u to a ü?
But in the dative (Dativ) case where the "brothers" are an indirect object, the plural form has a different spelling. The singular „den Bruder“ transforms into „den Brüdern“. For example, if you want to say "I gave it to the brothers," you can say: „Ich habe es den Brüdern gegeben“.
To figure out the plural forms, I use the online Leo dictionary (e.g. at https://dict.leo.org/german-english/bruder), which often includes a table icon for indicating when the noun endings change in other cases.
For studying plural forms of any noun, you can follow general rules for pluralization and individually memorize the plural forms of each noun with flashcards. You can also read and listen to native content to develop an intuition for what sounds right.