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Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#71
I can't see the dang product in the first 5 seconds on the product page. Sure theres a dim shot of it folded if I scroll down (although its covered by popup consent forms), but I want to see the drone clearly without sitting through an artsy video. Something like the second and third picture on https://store.dji.com/dk/product/dji-mavic-3-pro?vid=137691 showing it folded and unfolded are SO much better

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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I don't like that the propellers don't have guard rings around them.

They make them, they just aren't standard equipment. They also reduce flight time and agility, and in come cases can interfere with your field of view.

I've got hundreds of hours flying quadcopters at this point, and the only times I've ever wanted prop guards on a photo drone have been for flying indoors or very near hot air balloons.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#73
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Every device manufacturer tends to fib a bit on battery life vs. real world, however, 45 mins of flight time is impressive. Even if its 30-35 mins fully maxed out that can give you a lot of time to creat content and explore

Tangentially: I wonder if a really long-flying quad copter can be made using a regular ICE + generator as a source of electricity. Carbohydrates are still more energy-dense.

A hybrid helicopter with 4 blades? There's a lower limit for weight to fit the ICE (we can't scale an ICE down much), so it might end up pretty close to a smallish helicopter

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#74

Does anyone have an authoritative source on what data DJI captures and relays to China?. I want to buy a drone but concerned about privacy.

Honestly? Assume they collect everything, such as location, the pictures and videos taken (and not taken), flight paths (this one I know for sure), telemetry from the device and drone, etc. Even if they're not doing it now there's no reason they wouldn't in the future, they are basically a monopoly when it comes to consumer drones and they are in China, they don't give a ** about privacy. Ironically, I do recommend t…

If you have log sync turned on - which I think is the default - your entire flight path is sent to the cloud. There are also a number of thumbnails from the flight visible in the web app. They're very low resolution, but I don't know if that's all that's sent or if they're downscaling them server side.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#75
post #65

When will these compact drones become less noisy? I know there are new propeller designs being researched to be much less like a swarm of bees is flying around near you, but don't know how far off they are to retail commercialization. It just makes it hard to stomach flying a drone in a pristine environment knowing you are disturbing all human and non-human animals nearby.

Exactly. All this focus on improved image quality, battery life and whatnot, but no mention about noise levels, or even R&D into the area. Currently, only the video is usable from drone footage, which is a huge limitation. All drone footage either has music or an audio track from an external source overlaid on top of it. I wonder if the propeller and wind noise could be cancelled or removed with some fancy algorithms…

> Currently, only the video is usable from drone footage, which is a huge limitation.

For what use cases? Outdoor concerts? The acoustics at 100ft in the air are unlikely to be great anyways.

I wouldn't call it a huge limitation.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#76
post #6

Awesome new cameras, but how do you land these things safely on a sailboat? It's always tricky and scary.

Short answer - you don't.

I've flown from boats a handful of times, and it's stressful. When I started, I would ask them to keep the boat as still as possible, hover next to the boat, then slowly move over to me so I could reach it. Grab it from underneath and flip it over to kill the motors.

That's obviously not safe, and it's not hard to find photos in drone groups of people's hands after a failed attempt to do exactly this. It's not pretty.

After that I came across an old indoor practice goal for soccer players - basically a net on a stand. I modified it to lay flat and started using it. I'd get the quad close to the boat, hover a couple of feet over the net, and kill the motors. It worked, but felt like I was risking my quad dropping into the ocean every time I did it.

These days I've gone back to hand-catching, but with a vertical grip that I mounted under the aircraft. I 3D printed a "harness" of sorts that fits around the fuselage and has a Picatinny rail on the bottom (like on a rifle). I picked up a cheap vertical grip designed for a gun that I can quickly mount on the rail - it extends ~6" below and gives me something to grab without being on the same plane as the props. It works well enough, but isn't perfect. It would interfere with the field of view on something with a 360º camera gimbal (like an Inspire), and has a significant impact on flight time and performance even though I did all I could to reduce the weight.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#77
post #6

Awesome new cameras, but how do you land these things safely on a sailboat? It's always tricky and scary.

This guy had some good tips. Not sure if its this video or another. But i saw it in a youtube rabbit hole a while back>

One of the tips is to turn off RTH though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MsDUQjn9Bk

Funny enough I was telling my buddy about the video. And he mentioned he had some youtuber go fishing with him and bragging about some drone he had. He didnt turn off RTH and it went in the drink when the batteries ran down.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#78
post #6

Awesome new cameras, but how do you land these things safely on a sailboat? It's always tricky and scary.

They really should allow auto updating of the Home location, however if you’re moving while landing getting that right is probably quite difficult.

You can, for both DJI and Autel (the largest commercial manufacturers). There is similar functionality for the homebrew flight controller firmwares out there (e.g. iNav/ArduPilot).

I'm most familiar with Autel's system, since that's what I fly 99% of the time. It has the option to update your home point, but it also has two modes: RTH to takeoff point, and RTH to the controller.

RTH = "Return To Home"

The problem with all of the above is the "failsafe". If the quad loses connection to the controller, by default it will return to the takeoff point and land. You can set it up to RTH to either the the takeoff point or the last known position of the controller, then land or hover until connection is re-established.

On a boat, you're constantly moving. If you lose connection, the drone immediately loses the current position of the controller, so you have to turn the boat around, manually find the drone, and cross your fingers that you're able to reconnect to it before the batteries die and it descends into a nice, slow, controlled landing in the middle of the ocean.

Identifying alternate safe landing sites before taking off is part of the pre-flight checklist for any flight, but it's especially important when operating over water. Doubly so if you're taking off from a boat. Whenever possible, I make sure to end my flights with enough battery that I can make it back to land if I have to. I've planned to use (inactive) oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico in an emergency. I have no idea how I would have gotten ahold of the owners and gotten access to it to retrieve my drone if I'd had to use it, but I'd rather work out those details later than lose it or be forced to ditch it in the water.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

#79
DJI seems to be the one company that requires sideloading the Android app. DJI makes great products, but there's really few companies who I would trust less to give unvetted access to my phone.

I know the Android app sandboxing should help a lot, but there's enough unknowns & potentially lurking security holes that I really wouldn't want to trust them. They also are 100% the most likely company on the planet to self-update & start truly-epic-level spying on the world if China ever gets a little bit more nervous. It's just not a tenable proposition to trust DJI with this security stance; no one at the company has the power nor right to say no, & as such there's no basis for trust to form.

Re: DJI Mavic 3 Pro

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post #64

When will these compact drones become less noisy? I know there are new propeller designs being researched to be much less like a swarm of bees is flying around near you, but don't know how far off they are to retail commercialization. It just makes it hard to stomach flying a drone in a pristine environment knowing you are disturbing all human and non-human animals nearby.

Zipline is using a rather strange propeller design that is apparently effective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWDNBu9DkU&t=831s

I saw that! I’m sure they will patent it and consumers will be stuck with more traditional designs. Sigh, the patent law really needs a refresh, considering how rapid research and market response became.
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