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Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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Big news headlines seem to be positioned in a way to scare people away from tech jobs right now, but the hard reality is that every organization relies tech people, not just those few big tech companies in Silicon Valley that over-hired during the pandemic.

The only thing they position for is clicks, the only real agenda is clicks.

Industry / Company / Place where people make lots of money firing people = lots of clicks.

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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Big news headlines seem to be positioned in a way to scare people away from tech jobs right now, but the hard reality is that every organization relies tech people, not just those few big tech companies in Silicon Valley that over-hired during the pandemic.

If you were an average engineer destined to work in cookie-cutter roles in tech consultancies, would you still pursue a tech career, knowing that your job will sooner or later be taken over by AI?

Remember that careers last 30 years, and if you're the average engineer, you're more likely to fall into the 80% of the pareto half than the 20%. Can you be confident that AI won't displace you in 10, 15, or even 20 years?

This doesn't apply to Stanford grads destined for high-tech roles in FAANG tier companies. I'm taling about the Idaho State grads who will work for IBM and Accenture and likely won't make the $500k salaries to retire from their tech roles in 10 years.

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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I am convinced that the mass layoffs are occurring because forward-thinking executives can see that AI agents are coming to replace employees faster than most people expect. By doing layoffs early they can cut staff before public opinion shifts to questioning AI as the motive, as opposed to "the economy".

Wouldn’t the “public opinion” be more understanding if it was clear AI was able to replace humans?

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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I am convinced that the mass layoffs are occurring because forward-thinking executives can see that AI agents are coming to replace employees faster than most people expect. By doing layoffs early they can cut staff before public opinion shifts to questioning AI as the motive, as opposed to "the economy".

AI agents might be replacing jobs in the future, so executives are cutting profit generating employees in the present?

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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I'm not sure what would be a better bet? It's not like automation / the economy / capitalism aren't also coming for other workers. Maybe a good time to retrain as a bailiff?

Given the capabilities of our current set of AI tools, I have zero doubt that almost every white collar job will be affected within a 10-15 years.

Before you say that's not possible, remember that chatGPT (GPT-3.5) went live in November 2022, and GPT-4 went live in March 2023.

10-15 years is a long time in tech. The iPhone is barely 15 years old.

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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Tech is a rare industry where you can easily pivot into it later in your career, start at an entry level position, work your way very high up the ladder and get paid very well along the way.

I know folks without a college degree that started as tech support reps who worked their way up to senior roles in big tech that make multiples more than most physicians I know or others that had to go down a rigid path to get to where they are.

The industry favors eager people who are hungry to continually learn and grow. While there can be short term bumps in the road, those that fit these characteristics have and will continue to do extremely well.

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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Big news headlines seem to be positioned in a way to scare people away from tech jobs right now, but the hard reality is that every organization relies tech people, not just those few big tech companies in Silicon Valley that over-hired during the pandemic.

If you were an average engineer destined to work in cookie-cutter roles in tech consultancies, would you still pursue a tech career, knowing that your job will sooner or later be taken over by AI? Remember that careers last 30 years, and if you're the average engineer, you're more likely to fall into the 80% of the pareto half than the 20%. Can you be confident that AI won't displace you in 10, 15, or even 20 years?…

> Can you be confident that AI won't displace you in 10, 15, or even 20 years?

1) No, but I am nonetheless skeptical of AI-takeover in general — I'm in the wait-and-see camp and so wouldn't be put off by the might-happens.

2) If one were AI-alarmist, is there any profession you can be confident will not be displaced by AI in 10, 15, or even 20 years?

3) Confession: I'm retired and no longer have any skin in the game.

Re: Tech jobs remain a good bet despite mass layoffs in Silicon Valley

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post #11

Big news headlines seem to be positioned in a way to scare people away from tech jobs right now, but the hard reality is that every organization relies tech people, not just those few big tech companies in Silicon Valley that over-hired during the pandemic.

The only thing they position for is clicks, the only real agenda is clicks. Industry / Company / Place where people make lots of money firing people = lots of clicks.

good systems have disconnected incentives and connected outcomes.

the same way advertisement upholds political correctness and same-thinking and make criticism harder, based solely on self interest and "not being demonetized by youtube", a journalist having clicks as the only metric will benefit whoever can spend money not caring for clicks to push an agenda to select the click-driving crisis du jour.

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