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Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by walrus01 » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:36 PM UTC

anotheryou wrote: post #5

walrus01 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they have L/S-band telemetry right up until the last seconds?

not sure what these bands are but the simulation stopped getting live data quite a few seconds before planned touchdown.

omnidirectional (or not very strongly directional like an aimed x band parabolic antenna), low data rate in bps and intentionally narrow channel size, used for spacecraft command/control/telemetry somewhere between 1200 MHz and 2000 MHz.

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by VWWHFSfQ » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:42 PM UTC

Is there an actual commercial reason for landing on the moon? What was this lander going to do? It seems like a lot of missions from various companies and countries are trying to get to the moon and they're all crashing. Is it just a rite of passage for a space program? What is the point of this

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by swader999 » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:43 PM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #12

Is there an actual commercial reason for landing on the moon? What was this lander going to do? It seems like a lot of missions from various companies and countries are trying to get to the moon and they're all crashing. Is it just a rite of passage for a space program? What is the point of this

Mine cheese.

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by CatWChainsaw » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:44 PM UTC

Have they tried using Apollo 11-era technology? :)

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by gpderetta » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:47 PM UTC

dexwiz wrote: post #3

Three failed commercial landers now. Are the moon Nazis shooting them down on approach? /s

There is no moon, it is just a giant cardboard soundstage in orbit. The lander just felt behind it.

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by snacktaster » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:49 PM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #12

Is there an actual commercial reason for landing on the moon? What was this lander going to do? It seems like a lot of missions from various companies and countries are trying to get to the moon and they're all crashing. Is it just a rite of passage for a space program? What is the point of this

Yeah I'm curious too. It seems like if there was actually some commercial benefit to this then USA would be dropping rovers on the moon every week. But it's mostly lost interest now.

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by uni_rule » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #12

Is there an actual commercial reason for landing on the moon? What was this lander going to do? It seems like a lot of missions from various companies and countries are trying to get to the moon and they're all crashing. Is it just a rite of passage for a space program? What is the point of this

Acquire neat rocks to flex on lesser nations with

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by hungryforcodes » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

beders wrote: post #10

It was heartbreaking to see the control room during the first few minutes after the landing. Imagine a project you've worked on for years going kaput and you won't even know why. None of these engineers will find sleep tonight. I hope some moon orbiter can take pics of the landing site soon.

This was a commercial landing though. I guess its not there to do science or improve the human race.

What was behind it?

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by nonethewiser » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:54 PM UTC

noisy_boy wrote: post #6

Beautiful images of Earth from the lander: https://twitter.com/ispace_inc/status/1650506233575604227/ph... and https://twitter.com/ispace_inc/status/1649707714447306753/ph...

How large are these craters on the moon?

https://twitter.com/ispace_inc/status/1650506233575604227/ph...

Re: Commercial lunar lander presumed lost after moon landing attempt

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Post by WillPostForFood » Tue, Apr 25, 2023, 6:56 PM UTC

hungryforcodes wrote: post #18

beders wrote: post #10

It was heartbreaking to see the control room during the first few minutes after the landing. Imagine a project you've worked on for years going kaput and you won't even know why. None of these engineers will find sleep tonight. I hope some moon orbiter can take pics of the landing site soon.

This was a commercial landing though. I guess its not there to do science or improve the human race. What was behind it?

It was a commercial craft carrying a payload from a few sources, including a rover from JAXA, the Japanese space agency, and a second rover built by the UAE.