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Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by Natsu »

robot_cowboy wrote: post #61
katovatzschyn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And, continuing back from hexadecimal, we have the splendid: 842254760070427756125843951997302119090555319708 in base 10 for the magnet link of the torrent containing the list of magnet links for the pirate bay's torrents. Shall we add to the list of illegal numbers? Perhaps its prime factorization also belongs on that list. 2^2×3^2×23×89×24733×462111028392156064869667382167578133253 Best to include the Roman numeral…

So, going back to hex and turning it into a flag just like the Free Speech flag in the wiki link, would that make this image: http://i.imgur.com/OHg3l.png the most copyright-infringing flag of all time?

What will they do if we find a crazy enough way to make, say, the number 5 infringing? And who owns 5, anyhow?

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by ak2012 »

cabirum wrote: post #20

I wonder if some self-updating mechanism could be implemented in magnet links. Something like additional signature part in the magnet url so the owner could inform other peers that content is changed and need to be updated.

how can this happen i wonder

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by denysonique »

djeikyb wrote: post #10
denysonique wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

magnet of the magnets: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:938802790a385c49307f34cca4c30f80b03df59c&dn=The+whole+Pirate+Bay+magnet+archive&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80

You need to put your link example with new lines above and below, indented by two spaces. This will put it in a scrollable code box instead of stretching the page. http://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

thanks

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by allisfine »

Bogdanp wrote: post #75

I wrote https://github.com/Bogdanp/Pirate as a fun little exercise and thought some of you might find it useful.

Great!

Just one thing: I see you are splitting by |, and some torrents (very few, but some) have | in their name (I didn't bother with escaping that).

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by Bogdanp »

allisfine wrote: post #76
Bogdanp wrote: post #75

I wrote https://github.com/Bogdanp/Pirate as a fun little exercise and thought some of you might find it useful.

Great! Just one thing: I see you are splitting by |, and some torrents (very few, but some) have | in their name (I didn't bother with escaping that).

I've accounted for that by grabbing all the other fields before grabbing the title. `python pirate.py -l | grep '|'` seems to yield correct results :).

https://github.com/Bogdanp/Pirate/blob/master/pirate.py#L27

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by bwarp »

Natsu wrote: post #71
robot_cowboy wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, going back to hex and turning it into a flag just like the Free Speech flag in the wiki link, would that make this image: http://i.imgur.com/OHg3l.png the most copyright-infringing flag of all time?

What will they do if we find a crazy enough way to make, say, the number 5 infringing? And who owns 5, anyhow?

Even worse, they will make pointers illegal.

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by leoedin »

blhack wrote: post #26
its_so_on wrote: post #13

sorry if i'm being daft, but can't you get this down to a magnet link itself? THe page linked does just that: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:938802790a385c49307f34cca4c30f80b03df59c&dn=The+whole+Pirate+Bay+magnet+archive&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80 but wikipedia has an example of a magnet link like this: magnet:?xt=urn:sha1:YNCKHTQCWB…

Hi, would you mind editing your post to remove the really really long string of text? It's breaking the page.

I wish this would be actioned on. The comments are pretty unreadable in this thread as-is.

Alternatively, HN needs to implement a single-comment-only break somehow.

Re: Magnet-hashes for all torrents on The Pirate Bay: 164 MB

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Post by devindotcom »

anigbrowl wrote: post #60
chimeracoder wrote: post #4

This gets very meta very quickly. If linking to copyrighted data 'should' be illegal (SOPA), then what about descriptions of that data that are sufficient to identify the original, but not reconstruct it (magnet links)? And if those were made illegal, then what about descriptions of those descriptions? You can recurse infinitely on this. Beyond mere amusement, after just one or two recursions, you get to the point wh…

You're thinking about it the wrong way. From a programmer's POV, the link to the torrent can be abstracted endlessly into new and distinct forms, each of which you believe needs to be legislated away in turn. From a lawyer's point of view, the specifics are really not important, but rather the end result: is the user illegally procuring copyrighted material, or is the distributor providing them with a readily accessi…

Totally true. As someone commented on my own story on this, you can kill someone in war and be a hero, or kill someone at home and get life in prison. Context and the definition provided by the law are very important. And as you say, the law doesn't have to be needlessly ignorant of the reality. It can easily encompass intent, result, context, etc.

But! There are still interesting problems to be acknowledged as far as how you define the transgression. A torrent like this from one perspective is worth billions, from another is worth very little. And practically speaking, if someone were to really use it the way you might expect a pirate to use it, it is practically worth only a tiny fraction of its potential worth. These are things that are difficult to define or restrict, but are immediately obvious to anyone who would use it. That's why it's interesting to me.

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