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Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by fudged71 »

arthurofbabylon wrote: post #69

I built minimal.app as the antithesis of over-planning, over-documenting, over-organizing, and over-thinking. The feature that keeps the mind open is the Note Lifetime, whereby notes die when you don’t engage with them [1]. This is in contrast to notion, evernote, et al where writers collect stuff and live in these information silos, trapped by the confines of their tools. Of course many (most?) thoughtful people can…

Rather than a note dying, I wonder if notes could decay into smaller and smaller summaries.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by dmd »

jeron wrote: post #155
dmd wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Over the last 20 years or so I've tried: index cards, wunderlist, todo.txt, remember the milk, Asana, Any.do, Evernote, Google Notebook, Simplenote, Trello, Workflowy, Google Keep, Bear Notes, org-mode, and probably a dozen others. Three years ago I started using Apple Notes and told my wife "if you see me trying anything else at all, yell at me". I've been pretty happy with it and am much more productive just using…

You can recognize the productivity junkie by the amount of tools they tell you they’ve tried

Hi, I'm Daniel, and I'm a todo list software addict

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by mandmandam »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #76

Workflowy is what I have been using for almost a decade. I think the reason it works so well is because it is simple. Anti features are so powerful in an app like this otherwise you can spend all your time tweaking and coming up with the perfect system.

I liked Workflowy a lot, but the idea of paying $60 a year for drop down lists inspires a deep, deep revulsion.

I wouldn't even pay that for the full app to own for life.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by mandmandam »

thefourthchime wrote: post #102

I have experimented with Notion and previously used Evernote. However, I simply require basic tools and a platform that functions rapidly and synchronizes across devices. Apple Notes fulfills these needs quite effectively for me. Contrary to Evernote, which progressively slowed down and demanded increased payments, or Notion, which I anticipate may follow a similar path, I don't foresee Apple Notes becoming burdened…

If only Apple Notes would just bring in drop down bullets.

I'm a little baffled that they still haven't - it would be such a huge quality of life improvement for such a tiny effort.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by tombert »

Jackevansevo wrote: post #30

The 23 minute video linked on the "ultimate notion setup for 2023" sounds like a great trap to fall into to not actually get anything done. I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive. Although I admit I've been guilty the same thing, perfecting my .vimrc instead of actually working on projects. Messing around with static site blog generat…

I don't use Notion, but I kind of fell down the similar Obsidian rabbit hole.

Obsidian is interesting because it makes you really feel like you're being productive, creating links and little "mini wikis", but it didn't seem like I was actually accomplishing more.

I still use the app for notes, but now I mostly use it for just a "relatively easy to search" notes app.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by trenchgun »

fudged71 wrote: post #161
arthurofbabylon wrote: post #69

I built minimal.app as the antithesis of over-planning, over-documenting, over-organizing, and over-thinking. The feature that keeps the mind open is the Note Lifetime, whereby notes die when you don’t engage with them [1]. This is in contrast to notion, evernote, et al where writers collect stuff and live in these information silos, trapped by the confines of their tools. Of course many (most?) thoughtful people can…

Rather than a note dying, I wonder if notes could decay into smaller and smaller summaries.

That could be a really nice feature too

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by julianlam »

Jackevansevo wrote: post #30

The 23 minute video linked on the "ultimate notion setup for 2023" sounds like a great trap to fall into to not actually get anything done. I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive. Although I admit I've been guilty the same thing, perfecting my .vimrc instead of actually working on projects. Messing around with static site blog generat…

> I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive.

I think that's not a consequence of the software, but that some people have an innate draw towards these sorts of activities.

e.g. take a look at the community around journalling. Tons and tons of subjectively beautiful layouts and designs, and productivity is merely a side effect.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by leoedin »

tombert wrote: post #165
Jackevansevo wrote: post #30

The 23 minute video linked on the "ultimate notion setup for 2023" sounds like a great trap to fall into to not actually get anything done. I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive. Although I admit I've been guilty the same thing, perfecting my .vimrc instead of actually working on projects. Messing around with static site blog generat…

I don't use Notion, but I kind of fell down the similar Obsidian rabbit hole. Obsidian is interesting because it makes you really feel like you're being productive, creating links and little "mini wikis", but it didn't seem like I was actually accomplishing more. I still use the app for notes, but now I mostly use it for just a "relatively easy to search" notes app.

Obsidian makes a big deal of their graph view, but in the time I've been using it I've never touched it. I really like the WYSIWYG-ish markdown editor and the search seems to actually work. Those are the killer features for me. I tend to just make a new working note every week, copying last week's outstanding to-dos on Monday morning.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by waboremo »

julianlam wrote: post #167
Jackevansevo wrote: post #30

The 23 minute video linked on the "ultimate notion setup for 2023" sounds like a great trap to fall into to not actually get anything done. I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive. Although I admit I've been guilty the same thing, perfecting my .vimrc instead of actually working on projects. Messing around with static site blog generat…

> I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive. I think that's not a consequence of the software, but that some people have an innate draw towards these sorts of activities. e.g. take a look at the community around journalling. Tons and tons of subjectively beautiful layouts and designs, and productivity is merely a side effect.

Or look on amazon, there are so many extremely well selling books based around that very idea. Unfortunately the end result is usually feeling productive by reading the book, but then never actually being productive outside of that.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Post by uptownfunk »

protortyp wrote: post #121

To me, Obsidian really became the killer app overall. I used Notion and Foam before and while the interface there is much more beautiful, I like having my files locally (synced via Syncthing) and being able to write my own plugins easily. The existing plugin ecosystem with instances like Dataview or Templater makes Obsidian such a great solution for personal and work planning, and as a knowledge base. The only thing…

It looks good. Couple questions:

1/ how do you support hierarchical organization. The links let you show relationships but how do you get to a hierarchical representation

2/ at some point this knowledge graph must become large and unwieldy, how do you manage that?

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