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People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Over the last 20 years or so I've tried: index cards, wunderlist, todo.txt, remember the milk, Asana, Any.do, Evernote, Google Notebook, Simplenote, Trello, Workflowy, Google Keep, Bear Notes, org-mode, and probably a dozen others. Three years ago I started using Apple Notes and told my wife "if you see me trying anything else at all, yell at me". I've been pretty happy with it and am much more productive just using…

I started with text files in Notepad, then learnt from a friend how to use Freemind to organise notes as hierarchical mindmaps instead. It worked great, but search was broken (DFS but only able to find results in one treepath?!). Years passed, and I needed something to take notes with on mobile, and Google Keep was the simplest fit. But Freemind and Keep were both still too inconvenient on desktop, so at some point I…

I'm using Logseq for the same reasons.

.txt was never going to cut it for me, I always include images like drawings, photos and screenshots etc.

Logseq is open source, reasonable file format, stable, extensible, has a reasonable plan for funding itself without lock ins, and, for me, is among the smoothest I have used.

Notably missing from old OneNote 2016:

- shared notebooks w/indication of updates

- smoother syncing

Notable upgrades from OneNote 2016:

- still exists

- more structured (OneNote can out text and objects everywhere)

- easily extensible

- queryable

- taggable (Tags in OneNote aren't really tags, only glorified emojis)

- open source

As for the modern version of OneNote, I have given it up. It almost isn't comparable.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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> notes die when you don’t engage with them That is an interesting idea, but not something I would ever want in a notes app. A note may be important but never opened. For example, I have a note in Craft with my bike serial number and a picture of me standing next to it. If my bike is ever stolen and recovered, this note is proof of ownership. I have not opened this note since creating it, because my bike has not been…

That's an interesting use case. Why not just include a photo of the receipt as proof of ownership?

Why would you want to repeatedly 'interact' with that any more?

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Workflowy is what I have been using for almost a decade. I think the reason it works so well is because it is simple. Anti features are so powerful in an app like this otherwise you can spend all your time tweaking and coming up with the perfect system.

Also my go-to. Very useful for travel, projects etc. Recursive lists fit my brain well & the search is good enough!

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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The 23 minute video linked on the "ultimate notion setup for 2023" sounds like a great trap to fall into to not actually get anything done. I get the impression some people spend more time configuring these productivity tools instead of actually being productive. Although I admit I've been guilty the same thing, perfecting my .vimrc instead of actually working on projects. Messing around with static site blog generat…

Over the last 20 years or so I've tried: index cards, wunderlist, todo.txt, remember the milk, Asana, Any.do, Evernote, Google Notebook, Simplenote, Trello, Workflowy, Google Keep, Bear Notes, org-mode, and probably a dozen others. Three years ago I started using Apple Notes and told my wife "if you see me trying anything else at all, yell at me". I've been pretty happy with it and am much more productive just using…

You can recognize the productivity junkie by the amount of tools they tell you they’ve tried

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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I found Notion frustrating to use across the different teams I manage because they really want you to do things 'one way'. The endless customization tutorials end up being really surface level once you try them out. I use Taskade now https://www.taskade.com/

Taskade is easier to use and faster. Notion looks great but I always felt it needs some cognitive load to even get started.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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I built minimal.app as the antithesis of over-planning, over-documenting, over-organizing, and over-thinking. The feature that keeps the mind open is the Note Lifetime, whereby notes die when you don’t engage with them [1]. This is in contrast to notion, evernote, et al where writers collect stuff and live in these information silos, trapped by the confines of their tools. Of course many (most?) thoughtful people can…

> notes die when you don’t engage with them That is an interesting idea, but not something I would ever want in a notes app. A note may be important but never opened. For example, I have a note in Craft with my bike serial number and a picture of me standing next to it. If my bike is ever stolen and recovered, this note is proof of ownership. I have not opened this note since creating it, because my bike has not been…

A little off topic, but you should check out bikeindex.org

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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Can somebody recommend a simple app to do the following: keep a list of tasks and estimations of time required to complete them. When I insert an item between existing tasks, all the dates of subsequent tasks should be automatically updated. That is really all I need, but so far I have not find to right tool for this.

Re: People who use Notion to plan their whole lives

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The same thing happens in the workplace, too. My last two jobs have had groups that adopted Notion and tried to use heaps of rules and templates and emojis that they wanted everyone to use to structure and document everything in Notion. It turns into an exercise where the Notion document becomes the goal, rather than a tool to help get work done. The Product Management group at my last company was the worst at this.…

> It turns into an exercise where the Notion document becomes the goal, rather than a tool to help get work done. Same, except it's Jira and Confluence. Everything has to have story points assigned to it just so we can say we did an arbitrary number of points per sprint and show a impressive looking graph in retrospectives.

As long as you use Jira and Confluence to track what you are doing and make handy reference notes, they work super good.

About showing burn down chats: usually they are shown a few times in early stages of the project, but don't get any attention anymore once they start showing unwanted or erratic results.

Also story points estimations/tracking (as opposed to time in real world units) : never saw it work in practice.

Whoever says software/hardware project time schedules are 'under control' or 'predictable' is probably joking.

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Over the last 20 years or so I've tried: index cards, wunderlist, todo.txt, remember the milk, Asana, Any.do, Evernote, Google Notebook, Simplenote, Trello, Workflowy, Google Keep, Bear Notes, org-mode, and probably a dozen others. Three years ago I started using Apple Notes and told my wife "if you see me trying anything else at all, yell at me". I've been pretty happy with it and am much more productive just using…

Is there an easy way to link other notes in Apple Notes? I've used Obsidian for years now. Mainly because it's frictionless, I can easily link notes, and just Markdown files. I don't spend time looking for cool new plugins or new methodologies, so I don't have those temptations. I wish there were a better mobile app, though.

made a tiny app to link notes in apple notes https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35698521.

mostly use it myself

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