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A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Meh - I don't know. At least in the UK, "History" classes at school were less about memorising the facts, and more about questioning the who, what, why of some source of information. One thing that stands out in my memory is multiple different teachers always drilling into us: "never trust photos" (you don't always know who took them, for what reason, and if they were real or staged or whatever) If 12 year old kids a…

Your history classes sound a lot more useful than the ones I sat through in the US - ours was mostly delivered as a set of settled fact.

I had a couple of brilliant history teachers during elementary. Both were massive drunks

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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> Article is pretty thin though and seems to exist only to show off the fake Native American photographs. So? Your comment does even less than that, and yet you still posted for us to read.

We are discussing whether the article has content or not, clickbait is a particular type of low information content on the internet which I think is an incorrect characterization of this article however I do agree it's low information, and basically the premise of the article was reverse engineered by a writer that thought "wow these photos are cool." If you find my comments on the matter also low information, I can…

I think, it's about the kind of fascination with an image that connects us to a greater narrative that is our identity. The notion that these generated images do fascinate, while connecting us to a non-existing narrative, is neither out of context nor just superficial, nor is so the exhibition of these images. The fascination emanating from these images (thanks to the transfer of textures and hints of authenticity) is pretty much the point, which is framed in a particular context, namely that of narratives and identities. I.e., we may be on the verge of a second colonialization, to repeat what colonial rewrite has done to local histories and identities.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Related: Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old [0] is a great counterpoint to the general idea put forth here. If you've not seen it, do yourself and ANZAC Day treat and watch it this evening. It's from just before all this AI stuff went off. Jackson (of LoTR fame) is a huge WWI buff and was approached by the Imperial War Museum and the BBC for this film. He takes old archival footage and then uses a lot of compute…

I'm with you. Black and white footage feels fake. The colored stuff was mind boggling. The worst part was that the footage was taken during mostly peaceful moments and re-enactments for obvious reasons.

The stuff in Ukraine on head mounted cameras is something that has surpassed all.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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On the flip side, I'd really like to see AI make pictures of historical things that were only written about in detail.

It will forever be impossible to see these, but these would be a chance to make historical moments feel real. Its too easy to forget there were real people living through them.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Well, just like Printing press had destroyed history, religion, culture, literature, and etc. Radio had destroyed music industry. Cassette player had destroyed music industry the second time. Internet had destroyed music industry the third time. ...

Internet killed the video store.

Even Randy Marsh would agree to this

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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A.I. has quickly become part of our digital history but at an enormous emotional and commercial cost to those who still prize the individualism and creativity of image-making.

Did you call the police when the AI researchers broke into your studio and stole your camera? No? Well, the cost must not have been that enormous, then.

Really getting tired of all the whining from the "artists" among us. Whining is boring. Come up with something new. You're an artist; that's your job.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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There's also a technique for lucid dreaming where you make a point to look carefully at your hands throughout the day until it becomes an unconscious habit. The idea is that they won't look quite right in a dream, and you'll therefore realize that you're dreaming. I wonder if there's any particular significance to hands beyond them being conveniently accessible, or if any similar ritual would work as long as the indi…

I used to do the finger-count check routinely, thinking I was interested in lucid dreaming. One time, I had eleven fingers, realised I was dreaming, freaked right the fuck out, and woke up. I now avoid counting my fingers even during the day.

If you don't count your fingers, how do you know you don't have eleven fingers right now?

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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post #95

This is not a historian. It's some guy who's into wet-plate photography. His style can now be easily replicated. His wet-plate work is now just an unimportant hobby.

I never thought of hobbies as having importance to the outside world. I think the whole point is that it brings you joy and can take your mind off of other things. Not every aspect of life is competition.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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post #55

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> I am tired reading shitty click bait articles from people that don't work in the field but believe they know what will destroy it. AI is tiresome not because of AI but because of attention grifters. I am tired of reading shitty, low effort comments complaining about people thinking about the implications of "AI." This article isn't click bait, unless you're under the mistaken impression that everything topical is c…

Remember when photoshop was going to rewrite history? I do. It didn't happen.

> Remember when photoshop was going to rewrite history? I do.

> It didn't happen.

I actually don't. My recollection is quality photoshops were always a rarity.

But that's going to change, and quantity has a quality all of its own.

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