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It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

It does feel a bit like Bitcoin hype, in that I know there's something wrong with it but I can't quite put my finger on it or explain it. But this is why it's also likely to last a long time, just like Bitcoin did, because it's so enticing and yet so difficult to articulate exactly what it is that's wrong. I'm at that level where I'm just smart enough to know something is wrong here, but not smart enough to say what…

Yeah I think this is a good take. There's obvious usefulness to bitcoin, and I think there's even more obvious usefulness to ChatGPT. But they've both been adopted by hype bros, who are looking to make a quick buck off of 1) the popularity of it, and 2) the fact that most people don't really understand it.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

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Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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For what it's worth, and at the risk of sounding like I'm nitpicking, traditional Luddism is not dismissal of technology as overhyped or smoke-and-mirrors. Quite the opposite; the technology is recognized as very real and very impactful. The question instead becomes, "what happens to us, the ones it replaces?". And at least in the original incarnation, given an insufficiently satisfying answer, you smash some looms u…

From a historical standpoint, you're spot on. Neo-Luddism is still opposition to a lot of modern technologies, but for a very disparate set of reasons. For example, many oppose the mass adoption of social media due to perceived mental health and social impacts. Others oppose smart phones and "screen addiction." These things can qualify as "neo-luddism" even though the opposition is not rooted in job displacement. I'v…

I feel the same. I don’t have the same kind of enthusiasm now as I do a kid.

I’ll also say, I think LLMs are different than bitcoin. It has its own killer app, and it has tremendous social impact, not necessarily positive. If anything, crypto doesn’t really make sense without AIs.

One thing though is that the foundational models are created and controlled by big tech. It’s been compared to silicon fabs and its scales of economy … However, I don’t see a future where foundational models can only be created by large orgs with a lot of resources is something beneficial for society.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

I see 3 kind of people, all common on HN: - The luddites: it's just hype. - The doomers: AI will kill us all. - The AI indie hackers: dunno about AI, I'm trying to make money with it. Somehow the intersection is right: AI is not really smart, but it will replace a lot of human activity anyhow.

- the realists: it's just a stochastic parrot spitting regurgitated content back at you. Good at summarizing search results. Unreliable and will never be. A toy. Do not use if errors are expensive.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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The real beauty of the chatGPT hype (as far as I am concerned) is that might make people slowly realize that the "tech" industry has not been delivering to them the goods for a long time now.

The Jini that is out of the bottle is that between the computing devices and capabilities that most people do have access to (and which do little more than slurp private data and surface clickbait) and computing devices that can do a reasonable imatitation of human language after parsing all existing text there is a universe of possibilities. Not in some future AI singularity, but now.

chatGPT has leaked to the masses what smart fiddling with data and algorithms can already achieve. It suggests there is a range of sophisticated tools and algorithms and apps for personal and enterprise computing that could have been available but aren't.

People will eventually tire of the AI religionists and the self-appointed protectors of humanity but the revelation that there is a value dividend that is not being distributed might shake some things up ;-)

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

I'm laughing because I read your comment, which I agree with and I know a lot of people do, and then immediately saw that the top ranked replies were all the predictable "this is different" posts, explaining to you how the chatgpt is not like other hype bubbles.

The most funny part is that your point seems to be around the annoyingness / ubiquity of the content, in no way a judgement on how much of a hype bubble it is, but you still get the reflexive "this time its different!!" Which is as good an indicator as any how big the bubble is relative to the long run usefulness.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

Maybe this is a bit too shameless of a plug, but I created EXACTLY this sort of thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35458826 It's just a regex that filters out "GPT", "AI", "LLM", and "LLaMA" :)

Nice! Was checking the different terms, it's just crazy how ChatGPT is by far the most active one: https://hn.curiosity.ai/#/trends?terms=Llama;GPT;LLM;ChatGPT...

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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I’m sure this is going to make you laugh and/or annoyed, but what about Bitcoin is exactly “wrong?” Curious if after all these years you’ve found the words.

Well, I wouldn't say "what bitcoin got wrong" but rather "what people who were overly hyping bitcoin got wrong" It hasn't totally played out yet, but it doesn't seem like it is on track to be a currency, and the underlying tech hasn't proven to have a ton of uses beyond crypto currencies. Not trying to straw man here, just trying to honestly reply to your comment.

> what people who were overly hyping bitcoin got wrong

Did they? It's the best performing asset in the last decade. I think they got it right.

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Well, I wouldn't say "what bitcoin got wrong" but rather "what people who were overly hyping bitcoin got wrong" It hasn't totally played out yet, but it doesn't seem like it is on track to be a currency, and the underlying tech hasn't proven to have a ton of uses beyond crypto currencies. Not trying to straw man here, just trying to honestly reply to your comment.

That’s fair and I appreciate your response! While I’ve seen things that hint that Bitcoin might be starting to gain traction in high inflation nations commonly located in Africa and South America, we are a long ways out from seeing a Kroger accept Bitcoin. Regardless, crypto bros are the worst and I hate how every bull run we see an avalanche of new coins that all claim to be the solution to all our problems when the…

I can't really argue with investing in BTC or Eth, I probably should have for some portion of my portfolio!
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