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Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by theolivenbaum »

quiet_light wrote: post #10
sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

here's an extension I created for this https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hacker-news-filter... firefox : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/hacker-news-f... . no llm filter yet but I can add that too.

Nice! We're wondering if we should build a browser extension based on the "similar stories" model there, if you would be interested in doing something like that happy to have a chat!

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by peteradio »

newswasboring wrote: post #42
dmreedy wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For what it's worth, and at the risk of sounding like I'm nitpicking, traditional Luddism is not dismissal of technology as overhyped or smoke-and-mirrors. Quite the opposite; the technology is recognized as very real and very impactful. The question instead becomes, "what happens to us, the ones it replaces?". And at least in the original incarnation, given an insufficiently satisfying answer, you smash some looms u…

Agreed. That makes the AI will kill us all crowd the real luddites for this topic.

No the real luddites would the one who are attempting to kill AI before it hatches.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by hosh »

dmreedy wrote: post #27
csantini wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see 3 kind of people, all common on HN: - The luddites: it's just hype. - The doomers: AI will kill us all. - The AI indie hackers: dunno about AI, I'm trying to make money with it. Somehow the intersection is right: AI is not really smart, but it will replace a lot of human activity anyhow.

For what it's worth, and at the risk of sounding like I'm nitpicking, traditional Luddism is not dismissal of technology as overhyped or smoke-and-mirrors. Quite the opposite; the technology is recognized as very real and very impactful. The question instead becomes, "what happens to us, the ones it replaces?". And at least in the original incarnation, given an insufficiently satisfying answer, you smash some looms u…

I argue that I don’t think those questions about looms have been adequately explored, and we’re still paying for that even as another wave of innovations roll in.

It’s broader than simply, that people lose jobs to automation. A much bigger societal impact comes from treating people as automatons, which is how business are incentivized to end up with non-people automations.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by vlunkr »

sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

And yet paradoxically you currently have a top comment as a skeptic.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by davidw »

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #34
sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

I think the difference between those other hype cycles and this one is utility. I found Bitcoin very interesting (Erlang as well, still do) but not very practical in my day-to-day life. Unless I'm going to be hired by a firm that specializes in that tech, they're just not very useful. Nerdy and interesting and fun yes, but I just don't need them in my day-to-day life. On the other hand ChatGPT 3.5 has become immediat…

Yeah, more or less in this boat too. ChatGPT does things. Useful things. "Crypto" has some clever ideas, but always seemed too full of utopians and grifters and people with a solution in search of a problem.

I've used Erlang professionally and like the ecosystem very much.

I am a bit annoyed with myself for still not having a better understanding of how these LLM's work, because that's important, at the end of the day for evaluating where they are best applied, and where danger lurks.

But they are clearly going to be a game changer. Maybe more, maybe less than some people think, but I've seen enough hype cycles to think there is some substance here.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by DANmode »

Lendal wrote: post #33
sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

It does feel a bit like Bitcoin hype, in that I know there's something wrong with it but I can't quite put my finger on it or explain it. But this is why it's also likely to last a long time, just like Bitcoin did, because it's so enticing and yet so difficult to articulate exactly what it is that's wrong. I'm at that level where I'm just smart enough to know something is wrong here, but not smart enough to say what…

> like Bitcoin did

You think it's over for Bitcoin?

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by tnel77 »

roflyear wrote: post #47
tnel77 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m sure this is going to make you laugh and/or annoyed, but what about Bitcoin is exactly “wrong?” Curious if after all these years you’ve found the words.

Well, I wouldn't say "what bitcoin got wrong" but rather "what people who were overly hyping bitcoin got wrong" It hasn't totally played out yet, but it doesn't seem like it is on track to be a currency, and the underlying tech hasn't proven to have a ton of uses beyond crypto currencies. Not trying to straw man here, just trying to honestly reply to your comment.

That’s fair and I appreciate your response! While I’ve seen things that hint that Bitcoin might be starting to gain traction in high inflation nations commonly located in Africa and South America, we are a long ways out from seeing a Kroger accept Bitcoin.

Regardless, crypto bros are the worst and I hate how every bull run we see an avalanche of new coins that all claim to be the solution to all our problems when they are really just a Ponzi scheme. Bitcoin and Ethereum are the only two that I feel are worth investing in long-term, but that’s just me.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by chongli »

mike_hearn wrote: post #40
sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

Here's some criticism of AI for you: • VENDOR LOCKIN • It's possible that OpenAI is managing to establish a permanent competitive edge and will be the next Google. There is/was a lot of rather handwavy assumptions about open source models being competitive thanks to Stability AI and the Facebook leak, and last time I raised red flags about this on HN I got dunked on. But right now it looks more likely that LLMs are t…

after having studied this more and listened to a talk by one of the OpenAI team I think this will actually go away as a problem in the semi-near term future.

Is that talk available online? I’m skeptical that they will ever solve the problem of factuality. I’d love to hear their arguments for why I’m wrong.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by jasondigitized »

csantini wrote: post #14
sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

I see 3 kind of people, all common on HN: - The luddites: it's just hype. - The doomers: AI will kill us all. - The AI indie hackers: dunno about AI, I'm trying to make money with it. Somehow the intersection is right: AI is not really smart, but it will replace a lot of human activity anyhow.

There's a 4th - AI is a bicycle and I am riding the bicycle more and more every day.

Re: It's not only you, there's an explosion of ChatGPT on HN

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Post by sakras »

sph wrote: post #3

I know it's controversial during this incredible AI hype cycle on this site, but as a AI skeptic and increasingly neo-Luddite, I've reduced the amount I spend on this site by 90% since the start of the year. If only I could add my userscript on my iOS Firefox to just hide any post containing the words "GPT", "AI" or "LLM", but alas, I guess I will have to be productive instead of slacking off reading HN. I honestly m…

Maybe this is a bit too shameless of a plug, but I created EXACTLY this sort of thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35458826

It's just a regex that filters out "GPT", "AI", "LLM", and "LLaMA" :)

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