BS. Fake history is far older than "my brother knocked over the pot and broke it!".
A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it
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Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it
#72I didn't read the article solely because of the headline. Any statement like this made about any new tech development is automatically false.
Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it
#73But history is already pre destroyed? Roman emperors rewriting there predecessors into monsters, empires spewing nonsense to justify atrocities, the little lies the powerful on all ladder steps of societies tell themselves. Thats why historians have to be such detectives and goto sources who will not lie, like graveyards, drill cores and ancient cesspools. Cause the (re)written word, is almost always of no value when getting to the truth.
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#74Related: Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old [0] is a great counterpoint to the general idea put forth here.
If you've not seen it, do yourself and ANZAC Day treat and watch it this evening. It's from just before all this AI stuff went off.
Jackson (of LoTR fame) is a huge WWI buff and was approached by the Imperial War Museum and the BBC for this film. He takes old archival footage and then uses a lot of computer massaging and hard work to 'update' the old footage. It really gives a good feeling of the life of a Brittish solider in the first war.
He puts the camera speed at modern fps, he colorizes the black and white, he puts sound in, de-jitters it, etc.
I managed to see it in theaters, and the moment when it goes from black and white to color is just amazing. The whole audience just gasped. Really. These boys jumping around, walking like penguins, grainy and burned, silent, on the old archives, they become people, real people again.
I'm not watching a 'historical' thingy in school anymore, I'm watching a real boy march along in the toxic sludge of Passchendaele, staring at this new fangled camera thing.
That feeling, that moment, anchored to the horrible reality of the footage, but made better and somehow more real, that is what AI can give us on a mass scale for all this old evidence.
Jackson's hard work paved the way to treat this new genre of lovingly updated historical footage. AI will take it all the way.
Really, this ANZAC Day, go watch it [1]. You will not regret it.
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Shall_Not_Grow_Old
[1] https://www.amazon.com/They-Shall-Not-Grow-Old/dp/B07PMNNGVH
Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it
#75Some people feel threatened by AI because it makes their skills or creations seem outdated, and they blame AI for their problems. They see AI as the enemy. It's hard for them to accept, but AI is here to stay. Eventually, they will have to come to terms with it. Once they let go of their pride and stop focusing on the wrong things, everyone will realize the incredible benefits AI can offer humanity. It's worrisome th…
You've begun the conversation, but what is the next step? You've identified that people feel threatened. Why do you think that is? It strikes me that pride is rarely a defensive response. What are the things they should be focusing on? In a system defined by one's ability to capitalize on one's individual importance, what less unfortunate mindset should be taken?
Some people have an unfortunate mindset of wanting to shut down AI systems because they feel their art or job is threatened. However, I believe that the benefits of AI for society far outweigh these individual concerns. We must acknowledge that there may be issues with companies preferring AI over human employees, leading to potential unemployment. But, businesses wouldn't benefit from having poorer consumers, so it doesn't make sense to increase productivity at the cost of consumer power.
Society must adapt to allow AI technologies to flourish and relieve humans of mundane tasks. We should identify tasks that only humans should manage, differentiate between human-made art and AI-generated art without banning generative processes, and find a way for everything to work together. AI can even help in building a new society based on these principles, possibly leading us towards a resource-based economy where money becomes less important.
Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it
#76I didn't read the article solely because of the headline. Any statement like this made about any new tech development is automatically false.
Funny, I feel the same about blanket generalizations.
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#77Rewriting could be worse. I hope there are safeguards against that, but then misinformation is already trying to do that.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
You've begun the conversation, but what is the next step? You've identified that people feel threatened. Why do you think that is? It strikes me that pride is rarely a defensive response. What are the things they should be focusing on? In a system defined by one's ability to capitalize on one's individual importance, what less unfortunate mindset should be taken?
Some people have an unfortunate mindset of wanting to shut down AI systems because they feel their art or job is threatened. However, I believe that the benefits of AI for society far outweigh these individual concerns. We must acknowledge that there may be issues with companies preferring AI over human employees, leading to potential unemployment. But, businesses wouldn't benefit from having poorer consumers, so it…
> businesses wouldn't benefit from having poorer consumers, so it doesn't make sense to increase productivity at the cost of consumer power.
I think your logic is impeccable here, and yet we frequently see businesses making decisions that do exactly that. The growing wealth gap seems to be indication enough. I can posit all sorts of explanations for why that might be but I'm much more curious as to what you imagine a fix for it might look like, from your model. Or do you think it will simply fix itself once things "bottom out" as it were (and not to present a false dichotomy).
> relieve humans of mundane tasks
In the economy/system we currently have, mundane tasks are entire classes of jobs. Jobs not frequently pursued out of passion, but necessity since it is very difficult to survive without a source of income, and a baseline of health insurance. And even more difficult to grow. So while I love the vision of that future, I'm much more interested in what the bridge to getting there looks like. Because traditionally we haven't built those bridges, we've just hoped enough survivors will learn how to swim.
> resource-based economy where money becomes less important
In the current society/economic system, money is a proxy for the abstract concept of resource. Do you mean a more direct resource foundation, like a barter system? An economy that moves without the lubrication of a finance industry using the abstraction of money to provide liquidity? Something different?
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#79I am tired reading shitty click bait articles from people that don't work in the field but believe they know what will destroy it. AI is tiresome not because of AI but because of attention grifters.
> I am tired reading shitty click bait articles from people that don't work in the field but believe they know what will destroy it. AI is tiresome not because of AI but because of attention grifters. I am tired of reading shitty, low effort comments complaining about people thinking about the implications of "AI." This article isn't click bait, unless you're under the mistaken impression that everything topical is c…
Remember when photoshop was going to rewrite history? I do.
It didn't happen.
Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it
#80Rewriting could be worse. I hope there are safeguards against that, but then misinformation is already trying to do that.
Reminds me of the plot line of Metal Gear Solid 2. It seemed so goofy and far fetched at the time: a machine with ubiquitous access to digital information capable of rewriting history and news such that it controls the narrative.
Yet we see examples of informational and societal manipulation all over now. Kojima might have been about out there on the details, but on the general thesis, he was dead on.