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A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by rickdeckard »

soco wrote: post #32
mmoskal wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Digital signatures on photos, with each camera certificate signed by the manufacturer. Not sure why they don't do it at scale yet.

And then comes Google Photos and applies a filter, goodbye signature (in this case, the phone's). Or I have an old-fashioned film camera... I guess this idea would work only with DSLRs, which aren't that popular anymore nowadays thus we won't solve that much of the original problem.

It wouldn't even work with DSLRs, as barely any image taken is used without tuning parameters or retouching.

If a digital signature would stay valid after retouching, there's no value in having it in the first place. If the picture would be re-signed on editing, what's the purpose of that signature...?

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Post by johnla »

drmacak wrote: post #24
foob wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's also a technique for lucid dreaming where you make a point to look carefully at your hands throughout the day until it becomes an unconscious habit. The idea is that they won't look quite right in a dream, and you'll therefore realize that you're dreaming. I wonder if there's any particular significance to hands beyond them being conveniently accessible, or if any similar ritual would work as long as the indi…

Yes, exactly I remeber when I was younger and experimenting with lucid dreaming, when I spotted something weird I checked my hands and told myself "ten fingers, not a dream" every time. And trully when I was dreaming my hand was deformed, so if I paid attention to it I could start lucid dreaming. So maybe we are not that much off with NN

How did you forcefully lucid dream?

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by Jeff_Brown »

Zetobal wrote: post #20

I am tired reading shitty click bait articles from people that don't work in the field but believe they know what will destroy it. AI is tiresome not because of AI but because of attention grifters.

Anticipating the social consequences of a technology only requires understanding what that technology is capable of, not how it works. This author understands, correctly, that AI can generate realistic looking images and realistic sounding bullshit very cheaply. At that point, expertise in the social science becomes more relevant than expertise in engineering.

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Post by azubinski »

Who manipulates the past in the eyes of the masses controls the future of these masses. So it has always been and so it will be. Only now it's much easier.

And nothing else happened for the most part. Just another new technique for "hyper retouching" and fake reality generating.

Authentication and stuff won't help because it's a mass "unique product" for mass consumption, no matter how strange it sounds.

Re: A.I. imagery may destroy history as we know it

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Post by masswerk »

Zetobal wrote: post #20

I am tired reading shitty click bait articles from people that don't work in the field but believe they know what will destroy it. AI is tiresome not because of AI but because of attention grifters.

> Shane Balkowitsch is a wet plate collodion photographer. (…) His life’s work is “Northern Plains Native Americans: A Modern Wet Plate Perspective” a journey to capture 1,000 Native Americans in the present day in the historic process.

> Herbert Ascherman (b. 1947) is Cleveland, Ohio’s, most prominent portrait photographer. (…) Herb has a library of 2,385 books on photography. (…) Throughout his career, Herb has lectured to more than 350 organizations internationally. He has exhibited in more than 150 venues throughout the US, Europe, India, Australia and Japan.

They may not be from your domain, but they are experts in what the article is about.

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Post by tivert »

VaiDeN wrote: post #5

Some people feel threatened by AI because it makes their skills or creations seem outdated, and they blame AI for their problems. They see AI as the enemy. It's hard for them to accept, but AI is here to stay. Eventually, they will have to come to terms with it. Once they let go of their pride and stop focusing on the wrong things, everyone will realize the incredible benefits AI can offer humanity. It's worrisome th…

> Once they let go of their pride and stop focusing on the wrong things, everyone will realize the incredible benefits AI can offer humanity. It's worrisome that some individuals would rather hold onto their own importance than embrace the potential of AI to help everyone. This mindset is unfortunate.

Yeah, people. Let go of your pride, come to terms with your newfound uselessness, and accept your newfound poverty like a man. It's called progress. You should be happy that AI helped capital (i.e. everyone that matters) save the money it used to have to pay to feed you.

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Post by jwestbury »

foob wrote: post #16
JKCalhoun wrote: post #3

> The hands are often a tell-tale sign of the incompetence of an A.I. program. Curiously prescient: it was the hands of the robots in the original film, Westworld (1973), that were a tell-tale sign that they were not living.

There's also a technique for lucid dreaming where you make a point to look carefully at your hands throughout the day until it becomes an unconscious habit. The idea is that they won't look quite right in a dream, and you'll therefore realize that you're dreaming. I wonder if there's any particular significance to hands beyond them being conveniently accessible, or if any similar ritual would work as long as the indi…

I used to do the finger-count check routinely, thinking I was interested in lucid dreaming. One time, I had eleven fingers, realised I was dreaming, freaked right the fuck out, and woke up. I now avoid counting my fingers even during the day.

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Post by vorticalbox »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #43
Zetobal wrote: post #20

I am tired reading shitty click bait articles from people that don't work in the field but believe they know what will destroy it. AI is tiresome not because of AI but because of attention grifters.

Anticipating the social consequences of a technology only requires understanding what that technology is capable of, not how it works. This author understands, correctly, that AI can generate realistic looking images and realistic sounding bullshit very cheaply. At that point, expertise in the social science becomes more relevant than expertise in engineering.

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