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The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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post #7

> Coders made up 14% of employees at tech companies Wow is this true? If so, I'm extremely surprised it is this low. No wonder Elon could cut 80% of jobs and everything would keep ticking along.

That assumes "supporting" functions from HR over Accounting to Sales are actually not doing anything at a daily basis...

How many HR employees do you realistically need for a company that is downsizing?

Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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As a fellow developer who has been passionate about open-source programming since childhood, I was disgusted in this last hiring bubble how condescending and disrespectful the developers were towards other professions, which is disappointing. My general feeling was that it elevated developers to a seemingly different caste of "special" people, and here in my country (Brazil) there was advertisements everywhere about how you can study a couple of weeks and get a Top 1% salary.

Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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post #12

There are a lot of "software engineers" who can't code well. I see a lot of "google and copy paste until it works and deploy". No thoughts behind design. No idea about performance. No testing. No innovation. They all need to go.

Is that the fault of the devs or the broken processes where management promises unrealistic deadlines up the chain, so devs have no time to think about the bigger picture and just do everything in their power to ship something that barely works at the end of each sprint and move on to putting out the next fire?

To me, the fault is in the industry and how the ships are run.

Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes "supporting" functions from HR over Accounting to Sales are actually not doing anything at a daily basis...

How many HR employees do you realistically need for a company that is downsizing?

Quiteva few, actually. Downsizing does require a lot of admin work. Once the downsizing happened, well, those downsizing HR folks are the last to be downsized.

Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That assumes "supporting" functions from HR over Accounting to Sales are actually not doing anything at a daily basis...

How many HR employees do you realistically need for a company that is downsizing?

A lot, until the downsizing is done.

Although the US don't seems to have a lot of these 'worker's rights' so I guess I don't really know (/s).

Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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post #2

A lot of very mediocre people were getting pretty astounding money. Happens every cycle.

Is this one of those sentiments people like to say until the monkey's paw curls and they too find out they are mediocre?

Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: also yes.

Re: The layoffs are here for those who chose to ‘learn to code’

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This seems logical. The software engineers are likely going to be some of the highest paid employees, so laying off underperforming engineers is going to help reduce labor costs substantially.

Many of these engineers have been hired for new business units that didn't end up being profitable with cheap credit going away. Others might be in business unit that is purely a cost center.

Nothing has really changed over the past few decades. Regardless of your role strive to be part of the company that produces the company's profit. Try to avoid parts of the company that are viewed as cost centers and are constantly under the eye of finance as they manage costs. You will find how are you treated in good and bad times radically different.

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