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That's beside the point. If you don't have consent you don't have consent.
Not really if you're trying to influence some sort of change. Consent is implied in the usage of the product. If someone doesn't like it, they're free not to use it.
No it isn't implied.
Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses! 1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted. Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager. 1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users. Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you! 1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve…
Users: The UI/UX of 1Password 7 is pretty good. We're happy. 1Password: Yeah, but we're bored. So, we'll release an abomination as 1Password 8 and then spend years trying to figure out why people hate it.
Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses! 1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted. Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager. 1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users. Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you! 1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve…
The problem here is the most vocal users are often not representative of the whole userbase. As a concrete response, I'm fine with the 1Password subscription, I think the new Electron rewrite is at least as good as the old one, and the cloud hosting is the whole reason I'm using 1Password. I just don't talk about it because what is there to say? They really wouldn't know except that I keep paying my bill.
I'm disappointed with what 1password has become. To put it in a tone I feel is appropriate given how much time and money I've invested into their product, I don't think abandoning native development for electron to shove telemetry into your product counts as bending over backwards to preserve privacy. It reeks.
If I have to fight with a product to block telemetry, I’m not going to have it be one I’m paying them for like this, and I’ll take every company I can with me.
They’re going CrashPlan. You were all dog-fooders and beta testers all these years for their eventual destination - the enterprise. Yes, of course you’ll be able to buy at $XXX/year with a minimum 10 users plan while you are all still singing paeans in the tune of - “oh it has gone shites, but it’s great, happy customer here!” Mac/Apple only customers have this strong inclination for some kind of Stockholm syndrome w…
I've been a 1Password customer for many years. Their product is super solid. The family plan is very generous. I personally don't have an issue with them collecting some telemetry to improve the product. And they've stated they'll offer ways to opt-out.
It's enough to make me at least look for alternatives. If I'm paying for something, I'd strongly prefer to do so on my terms. I use Microsoft office in spite of the fact that it's basically just an industrial spying platform, because I don't have any other options. If I can find a password manager that's easy to switch too that doesn't spy on me, I'll do so. We shouldn't be rewarding companies for this.
Applies to much more MS products than just Office these days. I personally stopped being able to justify Office when they moved to subscription and iWork moved to bundled and already installed.
I still have Office on my work Mac and boy is it laggy typing as it analyzes the words and sends them to who knows where.
It sounds like they're planning it to be as general as possible (more just "how much is each feature used"), but it'll also be fully opt-in: > And, of course, once this functionality rolls out to customers, you’ll be able to control whether or not telemetry is active on your account. ("account" sounds like you can turn it off family-wide or even organization-wide) [ Reposted my comment from duplicate post: https://ne…
It bothers me quite a bit to read that we’ve normalized telemetry as much as we have. If you’d asked more or less any random hacker 10 years ago if any of this was remotely OK they’d all be slack-jawed to learn what has happened.
Where did all the privacy conscious hackers go? Did they all get replaced when JavaScript and Electron became the norm?
Seems fine to me. Opt out is reasonable, I trust 1password to not fuck this up versus, say, LastPass. If you already trust 1password to store your credentials, I see little to no impact to your risk exposure by having them collect anonymized telemetry. Curious if others have thoughts here? Their UI has changed a lot in recent years, maybe this will enable them to make more informed design decisions so that one day gr…
It absolutely isn’t.
Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses! 1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted. Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager. 1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users. Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you! 1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve…
They're focusing of the enterprise market. Those users are now what matters, because that's where the money is. Individual and family customers will still get their tier of product, but ain't no company-wide business decisions gonna be catered to their whims. And particularly with standalone perpetual licences, which I'm still clinging on to. Sync via DropBox, share a vault with family, and another one with my small…
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Users: The UI/UX of 1Password 7 is pretty good. We're happy. 1Password: Yeah, but we're bored. So, we'll release an abomination as 1Password 8 and then spend years trying to figure out why people hate it.
How and is 1Password 8 an abomination?