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1Password to Add Telemetry

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Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses!

1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted.

Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager.

1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users.

Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you!

1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve this mystery for the ages.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

#142

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Because before js became popular, every web app had access to every single event execpt what, scroll and mouse position. Telemetry has been the default for networked applications since longer than I've been alive. Think of a terminal connecting to a mainframe, how much telemetry it has access to, all of it, of course.

> Because before js became popular, every web app had access to every single event execpt what, scroll and mouse position. Huh? No, they had access to basically nothing unless the user did something that triggered a network request. What did you type in that form, but delete before submitting? No visibility. Which parts of the page did you linger on the longest? Which parts of the text did you highlight? No visibilit…

> What did you type in that form, but delete before submitting? No visibility.

Well maybe I deleted it because I thought twice about what I wanted to send you.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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post #130

I've been a 1Password customer for five years. The move to 1password 8 has been beyond disastrous: terrible extension integration, browser constantly crashing when trying to log into the web panel, and the mobile app integration hardly works with mobile browsers. Add the recent announcements that the company will no longer support their last stable version -- 7 -- and move to using telemetry -- I'm out. I've jumped t…

i have literally over 5,000 passwords going back almost 30 years in a dozen vaults in 1P. How easy was it to migrate to Bitwarden? Any issues with Windows, Android, Linux, i(Pad)OS with the move? thanks!

I can't speak for multiple vaults, but it was extremely easy for me to import my single vault:

    1. Export 1P passwords to a 1pux file
    2. Import file into Bitwarden
    3. Done.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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post #130

I've been a 1Password customer for five years. The move to 1password 8 has been beyond disastrous: terrible extension integration, browser constantly crashing when trying to log into the web panel, and the mobile app integration hardly works with mobile browsers. Add the recent announcements that the company will no longer support their last stable version -- 7 -- and move to using telemetry -- I'm out. I've jumped t…

i have literally over 5,000 passwords going back almost 30 years in a dozen vaults in 1P. How easy was it to migrate to Bitwarden? Any issues with Windows, Android, Linux, i(Pad)OS with the move? thanks!

Wow. I thought I had a lot with over 900. Mostly exported from Brave because I just started using a password manager less than a year ago.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

#146
Just wanted to add my voice that I really like the newer 1Password stuff. I haven't had any issues I've seen people complaining about, and don't have any of the philosophical issues that a lot of others seem to have. If you're one of those people, you should be definitely just move to Bitwarden.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

#147

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> But there are millions of people using 1Password now, often in cool and innovative It's a password manager, what's "cool" about it? 1Pwd always rubbed me the wrong way in the way they "take themselves too seriously" and overrate their importance It's a password manager. They wouldn't even sync to cloud at first iirc, no? The more boring the better

You can use it for a lot more than just passwords, which IMO is what makes it stand apart from Bitwarden. You can store notes, credit cards, photocopies of IDs, software licenses, key pairs, etc. You get 1GB of storage. They really have turned it into a "vault" for anything digital.

You can store anything you want in it, as long as you are ok with seeing just the first 15 or so characters of the name you give it. Because the column that contains the contents of the vault is thin and non-resizable. Probably because they didn’t have telemetry so they didn’t know.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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You can use it for a lot more than just passwords, which IMO is what makes it stand apart from Bitwarden. You can store notes, credit cards, photocopies of IDs, software licenses, key pairs, etc. You get 1GB of storage. They really have turned it into a "vault" for anything digital.

You can store anything you want in it, as long as you are ok with seeing just the first 15 or so characters of the name you give it. Because the column that contains the contents of the vault is thin and non-resizable. Probably because they didn’t have telemetry so they didn’t know.

> thin and non-resizable

I just checked and this works fine on macOS

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

#149

Users: We want standalone non-subscription licenses! 1Password: I really wish we knew what users wanted. Users: Please don't move to Electron, I don't want Chrome bugs in my password manager. 1Password: I'm just baffled. We never hear from users. Users: Please, for the love of God, give us control over our vaults. Don't go cloud-only, we're begging you! 1Password: Better turn on telemetry. It's the only way to solve…

They're focusing of the enterprise market. Those users are now what matters, because that's where the money is. Individual and family customers will still get their tier of product, but ain't no company-wide business decisions gonna be catered to their whims.

And particularly with standalone perpetual licences, which I'm still clinging on to. Sync via DropBox, share a vault with family, and another one with my small team at work. It's perfect, for me. But it just doesn't work for 1Password, financially. No amount of getting upset or whiny will change that. Time to get over it.

Re: 1Password to Add Telemetry

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post #17

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The post only mentions a few things: > we’ll be able to gather only a small set of general events and interactions within our apps. Things like when you unlock the app, when you create a new item (but not its contents!), or when you use autofill (but not what sites you use it on!).

call me stupid; but I'm not sure how those numbers are helpful for them?

How are people creating new items? App, or extension?

How are people accessing items? App, quick access menu, extension, browser bookmark?

How are people changing passwords? In the app, using the password generator or not, in the extension with the password generator, in the browser using the injected UI?

The thing about 1Password is that it seems like it's simple, but under it all there's usually multiple ways to do the same thing. Using some telemetry they could easily see that only 2% of users are using this one particular feature, and cut it if it's not getting used. Or this fantastically useful feature is only getting 20% of users using it, maybe they need to introduce it to users in a better way. Etc.

At the end of the day, having this kind of data can make for better decisions. I'm not a fan of telemetry though. I'm honestly surprised the security team at 1Password agreed to this one as well.

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